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Used prices taking a dump

Wow. Let me preface by saying that I never consider a motorcycle to be an investment. I buy what I like, ride it and, if it no longer speaks to me or I get an erection for something else, I sell it.
That being said, if I had known that the value of my 2012 Versys 650 would take a huge fooking schitt, I would have chosen something else. I can't believe this garbage. I'd make out better wrecking the damn thing and taking an insurance check write-off.

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I know what you mean .Hopefully you bought it right and it wont hurt to much when you sell it.
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Part of the problem is a continuation of the market crash in 2008, there is a surplus of new motorcycles, dealers are selling at a reduced price. So used bikes are almost worthless, that is a 2015 ABS is $2000 less than what I paid for my 07 before the extras. I just talked to a dealer 100 KM from me, about a new 2015 ABS, his price is $1300 less than a dealer 20 KM from me. So going to take a look this week.

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New motorcycles and cars make a lousy investment IMO. Just out of curiosity what is the mileage, condition and market value of your bike in Texas? Versys in my local classifieds seem to do much better than similar Kawasaki 650 due to current popularity of Adventure Tour bikes.

I'm still at a loss to explain high prices used HD bikes command since my personal experience with a Sportster 883 (friend's bike) is they wear out just as fast as any other bike and are less reliable and a lesser ride than the Versys. Versys is smoother, starts more reliably, more comfortable, quieter, handles better, brakes better, shifts smoother, has significantly better suspension, accelerates faster and just performs better in comparison yet the HD commands more money used.

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Rick, you have a killer model. I personally would pick the 2012 or 2013 Vs. 650 over any bike. However, it's a value bike in a buyer's market.

So if you want to ride, you can't get any better deal. If you want to trade motorcycles, then you may have idle investment money for a while. I hope you can ride. Slap a lowering kit on it and have a ball! It's a whole new motorcycle handling package on the Vs. 650. My Progressive rear shock has come alive, but the oem rear shock I'm sure does the same thing. Note that you might go through a hugger before you get your rear shock adjusted correctly
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Wow. Let me preface by saying that I never consider a motorcycle to be an investment. I buy what I like, ride it and, if it no longer speaks to me or I get an erection for something else, I sell it.
That being said, if I had known that the value of my 2012 Versys 650 would take a huge fooking schitt, I would have chosen something else. I can't believe this garbage. I'd make out better wrecking the damn thing and taking an insurance check write-off.

Better off to wreck it because no one wants to steal a Versys....
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Better off to wreck it because no one wants to steal a Versys....
For the most part, no one knows what they are. But for many that do know and are looking for a motorcycle on a tight budget, it's in their top 3 models to look out for.

The Vs. 650 is now categorized as sports bikes: so the word is getting out
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Rick, you have a killer model. I personally would pick the 2012 or 2013 Vs. Note that you might go through a hugger before you get your rear shock adjusted correctly
This caught my attention as to the Hugger, I have Speedy's lowering link on my 07, there is a spot on the swing arm disc brake side that can be drilled and tapped for mounting the hugger. My Hugger is posted way back, however it is fastened to the swing arm, have there been changes to the Gen 2 that change the mounting location?
To the best of my knowledge the swing arm and hugger travel together, even if the shock bottomed out, and I say this with the lowering link, there is still clearance between the frame and hugger / tire.

I am looking at a 2015, I know Eddie had his all ripped apart to try and add the R1 shock ,maybe you could explain what to look out for when fitting a Hugger.
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Personally I don't buy a vehicle for it's resale value. 99.9% of vehicles will devalue the second you take them off the lot.
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Personally I don't buy a vehicle for it's resale value. 99.9% of vehicles will devalue the second you take them off the lot.
That is true, but some vehicles depreciate more than others; the Versys is on the extreme side of the depreciation scale. To sell my 2014 quick I'd have to price it close to 50% of what I paid for it; if I had bought a BMW F700GS I'd be selling it for 70-75% of it's new price.

But I was well aware of it when I got the Versys, so I'm riding it until the wheels fall off.
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Personally I don't buy a vehicle for it's resale value. 99.9% of vehicles will devalue the second you take them off the lot.
I buy used because of their lack of resale value.

I got my V with only 9,000 miles and full hard cases for 3500$
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What is a hugger?
kinda a rear fender that hugs the rear tire

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...maybe you could explain what to look out for when fitting a Hugger.
just guessing...

new shock, no setup, no preload adjustment, shock bottoms hard, and the hugger contacts the fender liner or the corner of the battery box, maybe both depending on the model of hugger.
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Or maybe it's one of these

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...I just talked to a dealer 100 KM from me, about a new 2015 ABS, his price is $1300 less than a dealer 20 KM from me. So going to take a look this week.


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...I am looking at a 2015, I know Eddie had his all ripped apart to try and add the R1 shock....
Watch for me tearing it down AGAIN when I get back to BC in April, but THIS time mounting the R1 shock!

Got some GREAT advice/ suggestions on 'how-to' from inmates here (like jdrocks, etc).

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just guessing...

new shock, no setup, no preload adjustment, shock bottoms hard, and the hugger contacts the fender liner or the corner of the battery box, maybe both depending on the model of hugger.
Well Dave I am glad you see the light and are now stepping in for Kawdog giving some positive info,


I installed the hugger the same time as the lowering link, that was the first thing I looked for, I have a Skidmarx.
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I buy used because of their lack of resale value.

I got my V with only 9,000 miles and full hard cases for 3500$
Just wondering if you know of any used 2015 for sale in Ontario
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