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Rear tire squaring off

I have about 3k miles on the bike now, and the rear tire has a noticeably flat aspect to the center. Still, it least 60% tread depth remaining isn't too bad for the mileage, as far as I'm concerned.

With that said, and keeping in mind the tires were already 2 years old when I bought the bike with zero miles on it, I'm looking at the next tire.

Now, with the end of season sales ramping up, I'm seeing Pirelli Angel rear tires going for around $110, and Michelin Road 5 rears going for around twice that.

What kind of miles can be reasonably expected of each? Anyone have personal experience?

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I have 4000 miles on my Road 5's and they still look great....
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BTW check your air pressure....
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It's stayed between 40 and 42 psi since I bought it.

I think I need to invest in a better guage, though.

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air pressure is important regarding tire wear. i run 38 rear and 34 front these days. I've changed to shinko 705's and other than tire noise, i like them. it's a hard compound and word is they can reach 10k miles. they are "dual sport". before i ran metzeler tourance (original) rears and avon distanzia fronts, which could be good for 10k miles, but they stopped making distanzias and i wanted to cut costs. i've never used sport or ST tires on the bike. i don't worry about squaring off, as long as the tread is good, and the squaring is not too pronounced. ride more twisties to keep the tires round !
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also, look into dual compound tires, with harder compound in the center.
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The Michelins are dual compound, and are supposed to work well in the wet, which is coming (such as it is around here).

I would like to say I'm more concerned with safety on damp, slippery roads (the lack of general rainfall here means roads get slick every time any amount of water is on them), but long life is extremely important, too. If the Michelins are getting twice the life of the Pirellis, that's a slam dunk.

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safety first. slick roads after a light rain are a problem here too. i'm extra careful on the shinko's.
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That $110 is most likely for an Angel ST. The Angel GT gives 30% more mileage than the ST according to Pirelli. I ran two Angel GT rears, 6k miles out of one, 6.5 out of the other. I tend to be quite heavy on the right wrist. I've worn out three 705 Shinkos, the two Angels, and four Bridgestone 023s on the rear of my 650 in 39k miles. It sees mostly mountain riding and most of that out west. It is soooooooo much fun putting the coal to her coming out of a corner.


Most people seem to get about 8-11k miles out of them. Superbly wonderful handling and riding tire with no drama.

The GT tires run about $50 more than the ST.
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The Michelins are dual compound, and are supposed to work well in the wet, which is coming (such as it is around here).

I would like to say I'm more concerned with safety on damp, slippery roads (the lack of general rainfall here means roads get slick every time any amount of water is on them), but long life is extremely important, too. If the Michelins are getting twice the life of the Pirellis, that's a slam dunk.

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I got over 10,000 miles per set on my V-650 using PR3's. Got over 11,000 miles per set on my FJR using PR4-GT's and it looks like the Road 5's will easily do that...
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The OEM dunlops on the V650 are trash, they wear out very quickly.

Seriously, just get Road 5s, they are worth every penny, they are the absolute best tires I've ever used.
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I have about 3k miles on the bike now, and the rear tire has a noticeably flat aspect to the center. Still, it least 60% tread depth remaining isn't too bad for the mileage, as far as I'm concerned.

With that said, and keeping in mind the tires were already 2 years old when I bought the bike with zero miles on it, I'm looking at the next tire.

Now, with the end of season sales ramping up, I'm seeing Pirelli Angel rear tires going for around $110, and Michelin Road 5 rears going for around twice that.

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You can't really go wrong with Michelin Pilot Road 5, Metzeler Roadtec 01, or Pirelli Angel GT. They are all premium tires with consistently excellent feedback. Currently running the Metzelers Roadtec 01's. I actually like the steering feel from the front Metzeler better than the Michelin Pilot Road 3's I had on earlier and the front does not scallop like the Michelin did around 5000km. I suspect the Metzeler and Pirelli share the same base carcass for no other reason than Metzeler and Pirelli are the same company. IMO don't buy econo tires, the cold and wet weather grips sucks and I've found they flat spot a LOT faster, as they do not use dual compound rubber. Instead of getting soft, grippy rubber on the shoulders for turning grip while leaned and long wearing rubber in the center of the tread, you just get hard rubber everywhere. If you include the mounting costs, longer lasting and better gripping premium sport tour tires start to match up better on cost with econo tires too.
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I got over 10,000 miles per set on my V-650 using PR3's. Got over 11,000 miles per set on my FJR using PR4-GT's and it looks like the Road 5's will easily do that...
So far my Road 5 rear is holding up better than the PR4 rear it replaced. I got about 8k miles out of the PR4, and I expect to get 10k out of the Road 5 rear. The handling difference, especially front end feedback and stability between the PR4 and Road 5 is night and day. They say a Road 5 GT is coming soon, not sure if a V1000 is heavy enough to warrant the GT.
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It's stayed between 40 and 42 psi since I bought it.

I think I need to invest in a better guage, though.

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Try running a bit lower {38} at the back and see if the tire squre's off.
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