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Grumble, grumble...

Shoulda bought a shaft drive bike...

This s%#* looks like spider webs as it drips off.

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i gave up PJ1 years ago due to the crap it would sling all over the place, as well a being a song for dirt. I've used dupont dry teflon spray for many years (blue can), and will try the yellow can when I'm out of my old stock. other teflon chain sprays out there these days. note that fast eddie has used WD40 for years with great results and ultra long chain life.
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i gave up PJ1 years ago due to the crap it would sling all over the place, as well a being a song for dirt. I've used dupont dry teflon spray for many years (blue can), and will try the yellow can when I'm out of my old stock. other teflon chain sprays out there these days. note that fast eddie has used WD40 for years with great results and ultra long chain life.
I used wd40 to clean it, then applied the PJ1 black slingy goopy s%#*.

I'll be looking for something else soon. How often should I be cleaning this chain? I have it set up to remind me every 400 miles, but I'm just under 500 miles overdue by that schedule. And 2000 miles overdue for the previous one. Oops.

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i clean with kerosene, infrequently. i "lube" the chain with the dupont every 4-500 miles, or if I'm on a trip, once a day (i can have 8-900 mile days). unless it's raining a lot, the chain can retain the wax a LONG time. but i still neurotically stick to my regular schedule. the wax really does keep the chain clean and repels dirt. PJ1 is a *sponge* for dirt, and very messy. i've got a can just sitting there waiting for the dumpster next time i clean out the garage (when?). but the more you baby your chain, and keep it clean, the longer it will last. i live close to the gulf of mexico but stay away from the beach. sand sticks to everything and is very abrasive. the salt air does nothing good for the chain either.
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btw, the PJ1 would accumulate substantial goop around my front sprocket as well, that i would have to open up and clean out all the time. bad stuff. very primitive.
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Yeah, I got it because it was the thing back in the day. I got the black because it seemed to be the better of the 2 offerings from the store (the 2 PJ1 offerings).

I'll have to pick up something different on Friday, when I try to buy pants again.

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I'm in central California. Lots of blowing sand and dirt in the air, not to mention road grime.

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I lube my chain about every 500 miles....I clean it about every 3500 miles....Heres the front sprocket cover first time i cleaned it at 7000 miles....https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ket-cover.html

I ran out of the DuPont Blue Can Lube but now use this stuff and i believe its the same stuff....https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...etic-chain-wax


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as fast eddie said, your front sprocket/cover looked relatively clean compared to mine with the PJ1. i would have so much goop accumulate around the front sprocket, i could believe the chain would turn. but it's windy and often with a lot of dirt in the air, crappy roads. and i would take the bike to laguna atascosa/south padre until i wised up. change chains at 12k miles, and with the new chain, started the dupont teflon spray. now 15k miles and no problems.
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15k miles on the new chain, that is.
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I used wd40 to clean it, then applied the PJ1 black slingy goopy s%#*...I'll be looking for something else soon. How often should I be cleaning this chain? I have it set up to remind me every 400 miles, but I'm just under 500 miles overdue by that schedule. And 2000 miles overdue for the previous one. Oops.
I use WD40 as was already stated. In NORMAL ops I spray the chain after ANY ride over 50 miles, then wipe it down. On TRIPS I usually 'do' my chain mid-day, and again as soon as I get to a campsite so the chain's still warm. IF it's raining I'll spray it MORE frequently.

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...but the more you baby your chain, and keep it clean, the longer it will last....
An ADDITIONAL benefit of "babying your chain" is the horsepower you 'free-up'. NEXT time you get set to spray your chain, get the bike onto a rear-stand and give the tire a good push w/ your foot, counting HOW MANY revolutions it turns. THEN spray the chain, and then give the tire another good push w/ your foot, counting HOW MANY revolutions it NOW turns.

I'll bet that it turns MORE revolutions (MINE does!), which indicates that it "sucks-up" FEWER horsepower when lubricated.

THAT means better fuel-economy as well as longer chain-life.



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great food for thought. how much power/gas is wasted dragging a filthy chain !
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i've been having good luck with my last 3 bikes with this Dupont >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I clean my chain with kerosene using a grunge brush. Then wipe the chain down with a rag. I then spray it down with WD 40, spin the rear wheel a few times both directions, and wipe off the excess with a clean rag.
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i've been having good luck with my last 3 bikes with this Dupont >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thats the new formula not as good as the Dupont Blue Can was...
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I clean and lube my chain after every 300-500 miles. I also will clean and lube after riding in heavy rains. I've been using the Bel-Ray Super clean for a few years. Before that I used the Bel-Ray Blue-tac before it got hard to find. I really like the Bel-Ray brand for chain lube. The Super Clean goes on white so you know you got the whole chain sprayed.




As for chain cleaner, I use the Pro Honda brand. Have used that for a few years and like it a lot!



And finally, I use a grunge brush and a micro-fiber cloth.
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If you don't want to use kerosene.... Goop Hand Cleaner (non-pumice) makes for a great chain cleaner. I use the Goop with a grunge brush then hose off then dry with a rag. Next i spray it with WD-40 to dissipate any remaining water then get the excessive off with a rag then hit it with chain lube.....

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I don't mind kerosene at all... Other than not knowing where to find it around here.

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Yes, shaft drive is nice.

Moto Guzzi is offering an adventure bike for '19 with a shaft drive.
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As with oil, tires, seats, windshields, and life in General, every thing is subjective. Use what you like and are comfortable with. With that said I use DuPont Teflon Chain Saver on my V1000LT, my V300X and my V-Strom 650 after each ride. Does not drip, sling, or stain. Cleans up very nice and I can get it at some Walmarts that sell moto stuff.
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