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Old 02-22-2015, 11:47 AM Thread Starter
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Hey everyone,
I got my Versys last December and it's my first bike so I am a new rider. I currently have a Bell Revolver Evo which is okay but I think I would like to get a second Helmet. This second helmet would probably be my main helmet. The bell is only DOT certified and I would like my new helmet to be snell or at least ece. The other thing that I would like it to have the ability to wear glasses with the helmet which the bell doesn't allow me to do.

My budget has opened up a little since I got the last one so now rather then $100 I think I would like to spend $200-$400? I tried on an Arai XD4 in re store and it fit great, it's snell, but I am not sure I really need a dual sport and it's also the most expensive helmet I have looked at. other options were the agv a8x, shoei 1200, maybe scorpion 710. I wanted to get your thoughts. Maybe I am missing something that would help me narrow it down. It seems like they are all good options.

My next bike will probably be a smaller dual sport but it might be better to just get a nice street helmet and then a cheap DS helmet when I ride that since it's more likely that I go down in the dirt and I really don't want to break a $600 helmet.
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The one that fits your head is the best.
I personally can wear my sunglasses under any helmet I have tried on, but your reults may vary.

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Some years back MOTORCYCLIST tested helmets, and the BEST was a DOT one from "Z1".

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Is the EVO a problem with glasses because of the internal sun visor?
If that's the case, search for a helmet without one. I currently wear an HJC modular (my second one), and prefer it to the rigid full face Shoei and Scorpion on the shelf beside it. In fact, I saw the other day where Revzilla had the EVO on sale for $99 (only the hi-viz yellow at that price) and considered ordering one.

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I picked up a $99 Bell Evo a couple weeks ago I wear glasses and have no issues with the Bell at all. My glasses are actually the reason I wear a flip-up. No trouble with the tinted visor and glasses either.
I agree, fit is the most important aspect of a helmet, I would never shop for price, features or certification (other than DOT) over fit.
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DOT certification is on the honor system. Some are good. Some ?. Snell helmets are tested by Snell. No flip-up helmets are Snell. Arai helmets are great but pricey. I have purchased several Arai helmets cheap off ebay that were lightly used. I just bought a new Arai Signet Q off ebay from one of the vendors, Riders Discount discounted to less than $500.
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I'd rather have an ECE rated helmet than a Snell. Although, Snell has changed their standards in a good way. Buy the one that fits the best.

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I wear a Nolan 104 modular helmet...I got a modular just for my glasses...Modulars are heavier than full face helmets...I have friends with full face helmets that have no problems with their glasses and think I'm nuts...

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Hey everyone,
I got my Versys last December and it's my first bike so I am a new rider. I currently have a Bell Revolver Evo which is okay but I think I would like to get a second Helmet. This second helmet would probably be my main helmet. The bell is only DOT certified and I would like my new helmet to be snell or at least ece. The other thing that I would like it to have the ability to wear glasses with the helmet which the bell doesn't allow me to do.

My budget has opened up a little since I got the last one so now rather then $100 I think I would like to spend $200-$400? I tried on an Arai XD4 in re store and it fit great, it's snell, but I am not sure I really need a dual sport and it's also the most expensive helmet I have looked at. other options were the agv a8x, shoei 1200, maybe scorpion 710. I wanted to get your thoughts. Maybe I am missing something that would help me narrow it down. It seems like they are all good options.

My next bike will probably be a smaller dual sport but it might be better to just get a nice street helmet and then a cheap DS helmet when I ride that since it's more likely that I go down in the dirt and I really don't want to break a $600 helmet.
If money is not a huge concern you can't go wrong with either Shoei or Arai. Which one is better for you will depend on your head shape and the model.

I would seriously consider getting a second tinted visor as well as the standard clear visor as a tinted visor is really nice to have on sunny days. Same goes for pinlock inserts on cold and wet days.

Also consider something like a Sena 10 or 20 helmet unit if you ride with others or just like to listen to tunes while riding. The models with a separate, rather than boom mounted, mic work better in a FF helmet. Almost all units come in both versions.

If money is more of a concern Scorpion and Bell make some great cheaper helmets. Generally ventilation, sometimes fit and usually weight improve with price. Bells more expensive helmets are custom fitted and can share visors with your existing helmet.

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I wear a Nolan 104 modular helmet...I got a modular just for my glasses...Modulars are heavier than full face helmets...I have friends with full face helmets that have no problems with their glasses and think I'm nuts...

I don't see (haha) how people with glasses can wear fullface helmets. I've tried it and it's a serious pita removing and putting glasses back on every time I pull my helmet off. I mainly commute short distances, maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal if I traveled longer distances, like all day rides, where the helmet stays on for longer periods.
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Some glasses work better with helmets than others. American Optical Aviators glasses are and example as well as the military style sunglasses (Okleys).
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Is the EVO a problem with glasses because of the internal sun visor?
If that's the case, search for a helmet without one. I currently wear an HJC modular (my second one), and prefer it to the rigid full face Shoei and Scorpion on the shelf beside it. In fact, I saw the other day where Revzilla had the EVO on sale for $99 (only the hi-viz yellow at that price) and considered ordering one.
The cheek pads don't allow me to insert my classes or sunglasses. The Arai was tight but looked like it would accommodate sun or rx glasses.

I will probably want to get a Sena unit down the road too. Good suggestion.

What do you guys think about dual sport helmet vs regular sport? I commute on my bike, as well as go on longer rides. Probable will do multi day tours, with maybe some gravel roads thrown in. Like I mentioned i will eventually get a lighter dual sport bike but if a more typical sport helmet works better for them ind of riding I do then I would rather do that and get a less expensive dual sport for later.
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I got a Shoei 1100 for $250 (Competition Accessories) with a nice paint job. I could then afford the $89 Shoei mirror face shield (very well sealed and mirror shield holds up better than most.) It is by far the best helmet I've ever had: it fits wonderful and it really is much quieter (but don't throw away your earplugs) for short trips anyway. It is also the European SHARP safety rated at 5 Stars (only a few much more expensive helmets are rated this high - most are 2 stars or less.) It takes a lot of searching, but they are out there. i won't ride with anything less now

Oh yeah, I've worn glasses since I was 5 y.o.

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DOT certification is on the honor system. Some are good. Some ?. Snell helmets are tested by Snell. No flip-up helmets are Snell. Arai helmets are great but pricey. I have purchased several Arai helmets cheap off ebay that were lightly used. I just bought a new Arai Signet Q off ebay from one of the vendors, Riders Discount discounted to less than $500.
I bought my wife and I Arais years back. I tossed mine quite awhile ago, she still has and loves her. It fits her better than anything else. I thought it was comfortable, but no more so than my Shoeis. There were also several things that ticked me off with the Arais.

1. The windscreen had no ratchets like a Shoei and would not stay in the position I set it while riding. Once out on a tour I ended up making toilet paper shims to hold the damn thing open.

2. Plastic bits were frequently breaking or falling off.

3. The mounting system is not very user friendly. Once, my wife's came unhinged somehow in a monsoon in the Monongahela forest. She had to end up taking it off and getting soaking wet so I could figure out how to get the damn thing back together. Shoeis are child's play to snap on and off.

I'll still probably end up buying her another since she likes them so well, but unless Shoei starts producing garbage, they've won my business. Just got a purdy new anthracite colored Qwest I'm itching to break in.
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I wear a Nolan 104 modular helmet...I got a modular just for my glasses...Modulars are heavier than full face helmets...I have friends with full face helmets that have no problems with their glasses and think I'm nuts...

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The cheek pads don't allow me to insert my classes or sunglasses. The Arai was tight but looked like it would accommodate sun or rx glasses.

I will probably want to get a Sena unit down the road too. Good suggestion.

What do you guys think about dual sport helmet vs regular sport? I commute on my bike, as well as go on longer rides. Probable will do multi day tours, with maybe some gravel roads thrown in. Like I mentioned i will eventually get a lighter dual sport bike but if a more typical sport helmet works better for them ind of riding I do then I would rather do that and get a less expensive dual sport for later.
I too have a Bell EVO Revolver and wear glasses. The trick is to have your glasses ON prior to putting on the helmet. That is the beauty of a flip-up helmet. You flip the thing up and put the helmet on over your glasses then flip it down and you are ready to go.


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This new Arai Signet Q is the quietest helmet I have ever owned, much quieter than my Signet GTRs.
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I love my Arai rxq. Although your wallet will hurt after the purchase, you will be safe and comfortable. I think it's a worthy investment
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With a modular helmet, you don't have to take you glasses off when putting the helmet on or taking it off.

I've worn glasses since I was two and have no issue wearing glasses with any helmet.

Do some research on helmet ratings. Snell or ece won't necessarily protect your brain any better than a DOT.

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