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So I use a Bell Revolver helmet that's modular and has the inner sunshade thing, which I love. It's a smug fit, but some longer rides, it starts to hurt right below my hair line in the front... I guess my question is two fold: is that normal or a helmet that fits properly? And how often is it recommended that a helmet be replaced? (Or is it?)

I made the switch to this one after realizing my old hjc was WAY too loose.

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Try taking a spoon and press that area down. I know a few guys that has worked for.

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The padding?
Or you can try pushing the spoon on your forehead bone

I remember my Shoei X-eleven was really squeezing too hard on the cheeks. I put the side pads under a big pile of books for a few days. Re-installed them and voila, pressure was down to where it should be (it should be a bit hard to chew gum without biting your cheeks while wearing your helmet).

But normally when you get a precise pressure point on the forehead it simply means that that brand isn't made for your head shape. If it's the hard foam under the shell that's applying pressure, compressing that will affect it's capacity to absorb energy in case of an impact (might not be by a lot, but not something I'd do)...

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To answer your questions, no it's not normal for a helmet to cause you dscomfort, it means there's something about it that doesn't fit your head. If the helmet isn't broken in you may want to wear it a tad longer to see if it gets better. As others have said you could try to shape the forehead foam a little. I don't think a small bit of compression in the forehead area will effect the integrety of the helmet enough to matter.
They recommend replacing evey 5 years but I only replace if the helmet is showing wear or damage. I don't buy into the "5 year" thing because there are so many variables that come into play, I think it becomes a random number just to sell more helmets.

I too have an HJC head and I had a Bell Revolver for a time. I thought the Bell fit fine after it got broke in, then I dropped it and busted the top vent and decided to go back to HJC. The Bell had some nice features that I miss on my HJC. I've been considering going back to a Revolver but the HJCs just fit so well.
What size and color is your Bell? Is it an Evo? If you decide to go back to HJC and don't feel like keeping the Revolver for a back up (you should always have a back up) and it's the right size and color, keep me in mind
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So I use a Bell Revolver helmet that's modular and has the inner sunshade thing, which I love. It's a smug fit, but some longer rides, it starts to hurt right below my hair line in the front... I guess my question is two fold: is that normal or a helmet that fits properly?...
I have a helmet that "bites" my forehead at the top-front. I pulled back the liner and used a "Dremel" to grind away a little foam there till it fit, RATHER than "compress" it.

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It's called a "pressure point" and others have already outlined your options. My wife has this problem with most helmets. If they fit properly, they press against this one spot on her forehead. This is why it's important to try on a helmet before buying, and keep it on for more than 30 seconds to be very aware of how it fits.

The soft pads will grow less snug, but the EPS, the white stuff that does the real protecting, will not. I admit I have done MINOR amounts of compressing of the EPS, but that's one of those things that the ranks and ranks of lawyers in this country will never allow any helmet maker to condone. So proceed at your own risk and don't sue me.

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So I use a Bell Revolver helmet that's modular and has the inner sunshade thing, which I love. It's a smug fit, but some longer rides, it starts to hurt right below my hair line in the front... I guess my question is two fold: is that normal or a helmet that fits properly? And how often is it recommended that a helmet be replaced? (Or is it?)

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Oval head in round helmet gets you that pressure point at forehead after an hour or so every time.

Only real solution i've found is getting the right shaped helmet.

Arai isn't the only solution though. There are more inexpensive, yet quality oval shaped helms at lower price point.

This link's a pretty decent guide. -Scott

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...met-shapes.htm

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TI don't think a small bit of compression in the forehead area will effect the integrety of the helmet enough to matter.
If you land there in a crash it will affect the energy absorption. I can't say if it will matter of course. I've modified the EPS in a hot spot. Spoon, rock, whatever works. I much prefer to have helmets I don't have to do that with.

As a first step try it without the liner and see if the EPS really needs to be modified. If it's hurting your forehead that's likely, but I guess it's possible a thinner or modified liner will fix it.
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Had the same story an ended up buying an arai signet Q....perfect with no forehead pressure...it is the longest oval shape available in the market...give it a try


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Most experts in the field recommend replacing your helmet every 5 years.

Two reasons:

1) The materials in your helmet degrade over time, and may not provide the expected crash protection performance.

2) Helmet technology contunues to improve. A 5 year newer model will provide a significant improvement in protection and performance.
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Awesome. Thanks for the responses! Since most my rides are less than an hour, the discomfort isn't usually an issue, but if I get stick in traffic, it is quite literally a headache! I have always been an online shopper, but perhaps I need to shop locally for helmets for the proper fit.

On another note... Y'all seen the new Bell Rogue?
http://www.bellhelmets.com/powerspor...s/street/rogue

Purty BA looking... Though obviously not as safe as full face.



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5 years for a helmet? I replace every 2. The padding gets compressed, visor scratched etc. in this time frame. Normally I push 25,000 km's a year on the bike, maybe I use it more than most.
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Awesome. Thanks for the responses! Since most my rides are less than an hour, the discomfort isn't usually an issue, but if I get stick in traffic, it is quite literally a headache! I have always been an online shopper, but perhaps I need to shop locally for helmets for the proper fit.

On another note... Y'all seen the new Bell Rogue?
http://www.bellhelmets.com/powerspor...s/street/rogue

Purty BA looking... Though obviously not as safe as full face.



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Check out brands where you can easily swap different size cheekpads,adjust top liner. Arai , Suomy, Bell to name a few. Or Scorpion where you can inflate-deflate the pads. Ask for pro help if you have to, and never look back again. It's worth spending money on a great helmet.
Bell Rogue ? ..Doesn't do it for me, several other brands have done better styling , more protection, of the same concept years ago.Nothing against Bell tho, their Euro line is awesome, always has been. I do own a Bell Star and the RS1 line is top notch too and affordable. But again you need to know your proper size , shape n find the one that fits you the best.
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... The padding gets compressed, visor scratched etc....
Since I began cleaning and polishing my visors with "Lemon Pledge" (the cheaper generic stuff) they last... and last... and last..., clear as new, too!

Also works fine on the paint, instruments and windshield.

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