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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-17-2017, 07:43 PM Thread Starter
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I live in Upstate New York where this time of year we see some very cold temps. I am thinking of investing in some heated gear (already have heated grips on my bike). What brands do you suggest? Does the gear go on sale when it starts getting warmer?

I try to ride all Winter as long as it is not snowing or there is ice on the road. My commute to work is only 25 minutes each way, but I would like to take some longer rides on the weekends.

Any information you all could share would be great!

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A heated jacket or vest is fantastic. I would skip on the gloves though since they tend to be bulky, get a good pair of insulated and waterproof gloves instead. The Hotwired gear from Cycle Gear is reasonable and performs well.

They rarely go on sale, even in the summer.
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Thanks for the input. Don't like the fact that they don't go on sale.

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I got lucky and found a used Gerbing jacket for 25% of new, washed it and it is like new. What a difference, usually run around 6 out of a 10 max. , if at freezing sometimes 7, heated jacket usually is used only below 45'F
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Thanks for the input. Don't like the fact that they don't go on sale.
If you can wait, good used heated gear appears regularly on Ebay. That's where I got mine (Gerbing jacket liner and gloves).

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Get the jacket - NOT the vest

because...... the connection jacks for heated gloves are at the end of the sleeves on the jacket.

Be sure to get a controller with a rotary dial and not "on/off" or "high/low/off". Some jackets come with a controller. Some DO NOT. Pay attention. lol

Gerbings are now made in China - along with most of the others - and the quality among the major players is about the same.

Get the 12 volt kind that plugs into a harness on your motorcycle.

Here's a closeout on my favorite heated 12V gloves

Tour Master Synergy 2.0 Heated Textile Gloves :: MotorcycleGear.com
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We have Gerbings and also Tourmaster Synergy jackets. The Tourmaster jackets have a bit more insulation and less "hot-spotting" than the Gerbings - in the versions that we have. A friend of ours has the "First Gear" and "Warm and Safe" stuff and it also appears to work just fine.

Here's an EBay link to a closeout on a Warm & Safe XL jacket.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Close-out-o...JaExy5&vxp=mtr
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I use the Warm n Safe jacket liner and controllers.....good stuff and if you are a member of the AMA and/or several other groups you will get a discount. At times, there are close outs on some of the gear. I bought a pair of new Gerbing heated gloves (have no idea who owned the company at the time) and they work great without being too bulky. You can find heated gloves that are thinner.

I ride all year weather permitting, and have also installed the Symtec Heat Demonheated grip liners on my Versys-X 300.

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Gordon's Heat Controller

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I use a Gordon's Heat Controller.



IMHO it is MUCH easier to use with my gloves on, etc. than a dial controller.

I have it fastened on the exterior of my riding jacket in order to be able to change settings while riding.

This heat controller has 5 settings.

It is waterproof and virtually bulletproof. I have had no problems with it out in the elements.

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I use venture heated jacket liner. Works very well. cost about $150. It has H-M-and low. It has heated front, back, sleeves, and collar. The only complaint was that the controller is inside the jacket, which means you have to unzip the jacket to change heat settings. I put velcro on the back of the controller and the top of the gas tank. now the controller sits on top of the gas tank. easy to change temp while riding. One thing to remember (and you will forget sometimes) Unplug the jacket before getting off the bike.
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I live in Upstate New York where this time of year we see some very cold temps. I am thinking of investing in some heated gear (already have heated grips on my bike). What brands do you suggest? Does the gear go on sale when it starts getting warmer?

I try to ride all Winter as long as it is not snowing or there is ice on the road. My commute to work is only 25 minutes each way, but I would like to take some longer rides on the weekends.

Any information you all could share would be great!

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I'm just north of you in Ottawa so I'm not sure how you can ride all year. It gets dangerous once the temp drops much below freezing as you can slippery frost and ice on the road that is impossible to see.

As for gear I would recommend a full sleeve liner rather than a vest. Why? Because you can replace the liner in your jacket with a full sleeve liner but not a vest liner. It will also keep you neck and arms warm with heating elements in both. DON'T consider self powered gear as it does not produce enough heat for a motorcycle with 60mph of wind chill. You need 12v gear that plugs in on a bike. You will probably also appreciate a set of waterproof motorcycle gloves in the cold weather with your heated grips as they keep the cold air out. I have Gerbings and it is OK. Tourmaster is cheapest as it includes the heat controller but may not be the best performing. A heated liner needs to fit tight over just a long sleeve t-shirt to efficiently transfer the heat to your body. If you want to wear insulation too, wear it over the liner. Not all heated gear is the same. The better quality stuff has larger areas of heating elements, it gets warm in more places, and may contain more insulation.

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I'm just north of you in Ottawa so I'm not sure how you can ride all year. It gets dangerous once the temp drops much below freezing as you can slippery frost and ice on the road that is impossible to see.

As for gear I would recommend a full sleeve liner rather than a vest. Why? Because you can replace the liner in your jacket with a full sleeve liner but not a vest liner. It will also keep you neck and arms warm with heating elements in both. DON'T consider self powered gear as it does not produce enough heat for a motorcycle with 60mph of wind chill. You need 12v gear that plugs in on a bike. You will probably also appreciate a set of waterproof motorcycle gloves in the cold weather with your heated grips as they keep the cold air out. I have Gerbings and it is OK. Tourmaster is cheapest as it includes the heat controller but may not be the best performing. A heated liner needs to fit tight over just a long sleeve t-shirt to efficiently transfer the heat to your body. If you want to wear insulation too, wear it over the liner. Not all heated gear is the same. The better quality stuff has larger areas of heating elements, it gets warm in more places, and may contain more insulation.
I pretty-much agree w/ twowheels' post. I have TWO Tourmaster Synergy heated jacket-liners (1 each in BC and AZ), one is the Mk 1 the other is the Mk 2. The ONLY problem I've had w/ them has been OCCASIONALLY the power to the heating elements goes OFF due to the type of connectors they use - aprox. 1/4" male/ female ones. I've found that by gently rotating them a bit, back-and-forth, they again make contact, and BTW - my Mk 1 has a new controller supplied free by Tourmaster that approximates the Mk 2 one, and the mounting method (an elastic band that goes around your thigh) is the WEAK point. I'm now using an elastic belt which (at least) stays ON.

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Several years back when I first purchased my heated gear I ordered both the Tourmaster Synergy heated jacket liner and the Gerbing's microwire model. As such I could plug them both in and compare side by side. Returned the Tourmaster and kept the Gerbings. It should be noted the jacket models I compared have been superseded with newer models from each manufactuer. The two big differences were the amount of heat the Gerbings produced was significantly greater and it had better insulation. It had a much larger area of heating elements and heated more of the upper body and did it more evenly. It also used Thinsulate on the front vs Polyester fill on the Tourmaster although neither had any significant insulation all over. The Gerbings was also more expensive though when you included the purchase of a separate temp controller. The big advantage for me with the Gerbings is the lifetime warranty which I have used twice. Not sure if Gerbings still offers this. Warm and Safe is another quality brand.

As FastEddie has stated the weak point of all heated gear IMO is the connectors. Most brands use the same coaxial connector plugs that can get flakey after a while with the high current. The Gerbings tech support person recommended using a small flat blade screw driver to on the middle terminal to split it more to increase contact pressure. You need to keep the power line plug on the bike clean too by making sure the cover is on it when not using the gear. Most of the connector issues for me have been with the cheap power tether connected to the bike. As such it has been easy to replace although it has needed replacement twice.
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You need to keep the power line plug on the bike clean too by making sure the cover is on it when not using the gear. Most of the connector issues for me have been with the cheap power tether connected to the bike. As such it has been easy to replace although it has needed replacement twice.
I use a Powerlet Outlet connector on mine.



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Heated gear is the bomb! But riding in sub freezing temperatures exposes you to more than just the risk of being cold. Exercise good judgment before attempting to exercise your good skills. Getting back to the gear. Yes a jacket liner is better than a vest. Heated gloves are a compromise. Heated grips are good for the inside of your hands, but you will never forget them! Better to get good winter gloves and heated grips IMHO. Barkbusters or similar hand guards will keep a lot of the wind and rain off your hands. I've had hippo hands and they are just too restricting for me. Definitely use a powerless plug in and use a heat controller, not just the on/off switch. Best of luck!

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I live in Upstate New York where this time of year we see some very cold temps. I am thinking of investing in some heated gear (already have heated grips on my bike). What brands do you suggest? Does the gear go on sale when it starts getting warmer?

I try to ride all Winter as long as it is not snowing or there is ice on the road. My commute to work is only 25 minutes each way, but I would like to take some longer rides on the weekends.

Any information you all could share would be great!

Thanks.
I use Warm n Safe. well made, great heat distribution and outstanding customer service. I highly recommend. They sell a jack to put on side of bike for clean, easy plug in. I recommend that as well.

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...As FastEddie has stated the weak point of all heated gear IMO is the connectors. Most brands use the same coaxial connector plugs that can get flakey after a while with the high current. The Gerbings tech support person recommended using a small flat blade screw driver to on the middle terminal to split it more to increase contact pressure....
Thanks for the "heads-up" - I'm going out to 'spread' that contact now!

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I have Tourmaster gloves and jacket..I have the pants also but I dont wear them, I prefer just good riding pants and Under Armor cold gear on the bottom .....I also have heated grips,IMHO you need heated gloves and heated grips to be really comfortable.

I've ridden in near zero temps with this gear and I was just fine.
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Merry Christmas! Under the tree this AM was a set of APOLLO Heated Grips (for my '08) which I look forward to getting installed!

Thanks for the "heads-up" weljo.

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