Ok, I would like to weigh in on my hijacked stormtrooper thread.
LOL, to put a funny spin on this, I could make a bumper sticker that says "Gays hijacked my Stormtrooper" just to see what kind of responses I get.
Now before anybody gets pissed about the above comment, or what was said before, let me clarify a few things.
The original meaning of the word gay had NOTHING to do with homosexuality. Ocean said that himself. And even quoted Wikipedia.
My background in this is a slew of gay, lesbian and trans-gendered friends. I also have experimentation with homosexuality in my past. I am one of the most open minded people you will EVER meet. I do not judge anyone on race, color or sexual orientation.
But again, gay did not originally mean homosexual. But, due to homosexual men often times acting in an overtly (for the time) GAY manner the name eventually got tagged to a social sub-group as a way to describe them. It was also an easier thing for prudes of the time to say GAY instead of homosexual.
You can also look at the homosexual male culture and see a sub-set that has a trend toward this very thing. Flamboyant dress and attitudes, a general overt levity about the world and things around them. Also, as time progressed, many gay men choose to express themselves through outrageous and loud clothing and lifestyle choices, especially as the cultures they were in became more tolerant.
Let me say that I have been to many gay parties. The best New Years Eve party I ever went to was at the gay bar called Unique in Louisiana. As I have said, I have had and have many gay friends. And I can tell you that some gay men, some...not all, have a knack for outlandish dress and attitudes that I can never even hope to come close to. I have seen things in my friends closets that Im like..."Dude, there is now way you can wear that." and he manages to pull it off with style and flair.
Why am I talking about clothes? Because we are talking about boots.
I would like to point to Elton John, Ru Paul, Freddy Mercury and a host of gay and trans-gendered men I have seen shake it on dance floors and stages. From a point of fashion, there is a sub-set of the male gay community, not the ENTIRE community mind you, that just have an incredible flair for fashion.
It is this subset that has helped turn the word gay from its 'secondary' meaning of homosexuality to a more fashion based word to describe an article of clothing that is in some way flashy or flamboyant. (Which, oddly enough, is close to its original meaning.)
So the word gay has many meanings. It can be used to describe, with no harmful intent, a way of life, a fashion choice, a happy outlook, high spirits, brilliant color and a sexual choice. It is ingrained that way in the American lexicon.
Unfortunately it can also be used to hurt.
Ocean, I really hope that you were not hurt by the comments we made about the boots. There was no harmful intent on my part for sure, and it seems that Neil feels the same way. I apologize as well if I made you feel uncomfortable.
But, having said that, I would hope you understand that as a member of the gay community you have a duty. And that is not to be offended at every possible use of the word gay that you do not agree with, especially if there was no obvious hate terminology used. Homosexuals have a very hard time of being accepted in this country without jumping at every oppurtunity to defend against an attack that is not an attack.
I think a great response to our post would have been simply "And whats wrong with gay boots?
" and left it at that. I think the responses you would have generated would have been completely different.
By calling the boots gay I was not attacking you or your lifestyle. But there are those who might see your response as just another excuse as to why gays are horribly different and dont deserve to be treated like everybody else.
So, in the great tradition of Elton Johns flamboyant footwear....those boots are gay. Sorry, they just are. But I GUARANTEE you that I have a gay friend somewhere who could wear them and get away with it. With style.
I really hope I have not offended anyone with this post. Sorry if it is long winded. I just firmly believe that we live in a culture that is getting worse day by day when it comes to personally responsibility and drawing a line where there should not be a line. And getting offended over the least little thing. Ocean, I am not talking about you here but our society in general.
I am sick to death of Political Correctness and a whole culture trying so hard not to step on each others toes.
We are, my friends, living in the fall of western civilization.
Moderators, if there is anything in the post I should not have put in please delete it immediatly. If it needs to be in another forum heading then by all means move it.