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Boots - Yes another boots thread

I'm a huge fan of motorcycle boots for their protective qualities specific to motorcycling. I like the ankle support, shin heel and toe protection. I also like the lateral and medial mallelous protection. I never ride without my boots - currently Tour Master Solution 2 WP - which I wear year 'round for the past couple years.

Problem is; the style of street boots (including the ones I have) makes me feel like a complete tool. They're either from beyond the Tunderdome with buckles, bling and bedazlling, bright racing models straight off the track or just weirdly styled models which scream, "Hey, yo! I'm wearing motorcycle boots!" Even the Aerostich CTBs have buckles on them, though they're not bad looking otherwise.

I'm looking for decent motorcycle boots which have an understated, "Wellington" style to them. I don't need fancy pleats or graphics or skulls and buckles. I just need a sole with decent lugs, an upper with thick black leather and the typical protection for ankle, shin, toe, heel, etc...

Does such an animal exist? What is everyone wearing on the street?

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There are plenty of boots that look like modern hiking boots out there. Wellington looking boots aren't going to offer the protection you desire.

Personally, I like that people notice I am wearing motorcycle boots. It starts the conversation on my favorite subject.

My two go to boots are the ICON Elsinore 1000 boots for warmer dryer weather. https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...t={CriteriaId} Got mine for $200 delivered from riders discount who used to be active on this forum. Mine are the Brown ones. They remind me of what Steve McQueen would have worn when out riding.

and the TCX Infinity Gore-Tex boots for touring, wet, cold weather duty. https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...gore-tex-boots

I have boots that have more of a shoe look, but don't provide the level of protection these boots provide.

I have a pair that look similar to these: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...ter-epic-boots

and a casual pair similar to these: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...ponse-20-boots

There are some shoe looking boots in this grouping: https://www.revzilla.com/search?quer...&commit=Search

I am not saying Revzilla is the place to buy, but they do have a price match policy if you find a better price at a lesser known vendor.

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Thanks very much. I've poked around RevZilla. I'll say the TCX boots don't look too over the top. Do the wellies offer less protection because they don't zip or !ace up? For the ankle support I can totally see that a snug fit would help.

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I have had a pair of these boots from Cruiserworks. They have held up well over the years. Luckily I have not had to test their protection in a crash.

https://www.cruiserworks.com/Product...our-Boots.aspx
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I wear the BMW Ride Sneakers. Extremely easy to get off and on because of the zipper on the side. I put a pair of Lock Laces on them in neon green. They're great boots, and I have nothing but good things to say about them. They've gotten the fashion okay from my wife and younger sister, who I use as a gauge of whether something is "cool guy" material or not. My only issue is that I don't really need something that blends in: any motorcycle boot is going to be too hot for my feet, so I leave a change of shoes that I wear while at work. I don't spend much time wearing them when I'm not riding, so the dialed back style isn't really all that necessary.

In any case, I'd recommend putting Lock Laces or similar products on any boots with laces. The Ride Sneakers came with about two feet of extra lace material that would have easily reached the front sprocket if they came loose. I also don't think I'll ever wear a boot that doesn't have zippers on the side. It makes life so much easier than the alternatives.
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Mine are Dainese TRQ boots... https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...iABEgKKkPD_BwE

They are great all around boots for me. Cool enough in the hot, dry when its wet, plenty of protection. I've worn them for over 8 hours walking around and my feet never got tired. I really like the slip on with the rear zipper. Its quick and easy on and off but very secure on my foot when zipped up.
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i find army surplus boots to be the best riding boots, well if your like me and ride your bike to places where you plan to get off and walk long distances and dont want to change your shoes like some females every time you get on/off your bike

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Mine are Dainese TRQ boots... https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...iABEgKKkPD_BwE

They are great all around boots for me. Cool enough in the hot, dry when its wet, plenty of protection. I've worn them for over 8 hours walking around and my feet never got tired. I really like the slip on with the rear zipper. Its quick and easy on and off but very secure on my foot when zipped up.
I have these too. They are the best, out of many pairs, I have owned.

Considering that even a simple ankle fracture cannot ever be repaired to as before condition, unlike a simple bone fracture, and will have a lasting effect on your quality of life and ability to walk and run, a protective pair of boots is a small investment IMO. I speak from experience having fractured my wrist and dealt with Orthopedic wrist/ankle specialists.

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This is all great stuff. Thanks! I was thinking about these:

https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-12-R.../dp/B001D1BQQM

They hit a lot of the style I'm looking for. I was also considering these:

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Martens-In.../dp/B000H6XE50

They also fit the style bill. But I'm not sure about their protective qualities.

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This is all great stuff. Thanks! I was thinking about these:

https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-12-R.../dp/B001D1BQQM

They hit a lot of the style I'm looking for. I was also considering these:

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Martens-In.../dp/B000H6XE50

They also fit the style bill. But I'm not sure about their protective qualities.
Those Dr. Martens are definitely not motorcycle boots. Steel toes can amputate your toes unless the boots have heavy steel in the sole to keep them from bending over in a wreck.

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You probably aren't going to find a more understated looking boot than what you currently have that offers very much protection. Foot and lower leg injuries are the second most common motorcycle crash injuries. Take a look at some google images of motorcycle foot injuries. I would be dubious of a wellington style boot staying on during some crashes. I wear ONLY race boots for street riding, which I readily admit is probably overkill, and don't give a second thought to how they look.

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My tour-master boots just failed, the leather dried and cracked at the top of the foot. Too be fair they gave me thousands of miles on the bike and were great to walk in. I got a gortex boot made by Bates. It is a lace up with a side zipper, and lug sole. It is more of a hiking/work boot than a m/c boot. I am going to give them a try, if I don't like them I will go back to the Tour-masters

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Those Dr. Martens are definitely not motorcycle boots. Steel toes can amputate your toes unless the boots have heavy steel in the sole to keep them from bending over in a wreck.
Yeah. I figured as much on the Marten's. I was trying to think "outside the box" as it were. But I'm inclined to agree with you. Protection is the most important thing. Thanks!

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You probably aren't going to find a more understated looking boot than what you currently have that offers very much protection. Foot and lower leg injuries are the second most common motorcycle crash injuries. Take a look at some google images of motorcycle foot injuries. I would be dubious of a wellington style boot staying on during some crashes. I wear ONLY race boots for street riding, which I readily admit is probably overkill, and don't give a second thought to how they look.

Sorry for the soapbox speech.
Thanks! Race boots will probably provide the highest protection in a crash. I think they're not practical for my purposes. But I see the wisdom of it and I can learn from it.

Thanks to all who've shared their knowledge on my dumb question. I'm getting some great food for thought and I appreciate your help.

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Yeah. I figured as much on the Marten's. I was trying to think "outside the box" as it were. But I'm inclined to agree with you. Protection is the most important thing. Thanks!



Thanks! Race boots will probably provide the highest protection in a crash. I think they're not practical for my purposes. But I see the wisdom of it and I can learn from it.

Thanks to all who've shared their knowledge on my dumb question. I'm getting some great food for thought and I appreciate your help.

Actually, off-road race boots would provide better protection on the street than track race boots if we really want to go there. Track race boots have to still provide feel and feedback, and off-road race boots are designed for the crash that will come, as well as flying debris protection.

Had a friend get hit in the shin by a kicked up rock on a highway and fractured his leg.

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I'm old enough that I've learned to go for function over fashion. I wear Alpinestar Roam boots and they don't look too bad. They are waterproof, offer quite a bit of protection, and are actually very comfortable on and off the bike.
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Steel toes can amputate your toes unless the boots have heavy steel in the sole to keep them from bending over in a wreck.
im sorry but no. if you are in a wreck that SOMEHOW bends the tip of your foot enough to have the toe cup amputate your toes, im sure if the toe cup wasnt there you'd still loose your toes....


but this is coming from some one who has been magically riding for 20+ years with clip master links and never had one fail, so im some kind of magic

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I went with Forma ADV Tourers. $219.00 through Revzilla. Not as monstrous as the Forma Adventure. Edited to add, they have a rock deflector right on the side of the foot where, if you've ever been hit there, you know it hurts!

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I have been wearing these for mostly city driving/short jaunts to work. They are real comfy and look like a normal boot, but aren't good for extended walking and I am fairly certain wouldn't do a whole lot in terms of fall protection in any situation other than low speeds. They were originally waterproof, but I just found out last night, they need to be re-waxed. For a boot you can wear to the office or to date night, they are great; long trips/highway maybe not so much. https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...-rayburn-boots

I have an older pair of Joe Rocket somethingorothers that I bought for my safety class years ago that I wear for longer rides and bad weather. They are going to get replaced in the next year with something with Gore-Tex.
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but this is coming from some one who has been magically riding for 20+ years with clip master links and never had one fail, so im some kind of magic
Not to take this thread off topic but I just installed an EK chain. It says on the back of the box the chain came in that a rivet master link is not recommended, although they include one, and a rivet type is superior/safer. I've have read a few forum postings on other forums where people have had a clip type link fail. In some cases it caused engine case damage or a crash. I've also read postings by others who have lost the clip but fortunately discovered it before they lost the chain. Unfortunately the higher the speed, the more likely a clip master link is likely to fail, especially if the clip is installed backwards. For the minimal additional cost ($~40 over your life of riding/maintaining bikes), plus the fact you need one anyway to shorten an off the shelf chain (off the shelf chains are sold in increments of 10 links usually) or remove an old chain with a rivet link, means it is the best way to go.

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Not to take this thread off topic but I just installed an EK chain. It says on the back of the box the chain came in that a rivet master link is not recommended, although they include one, and a rivet type is superior/safer. I've have read a few forum postings on other forums where people have had a clip type link fail. In some cases it caused engine case damage or a crash. I've also read postings by others who have lost the clip but fortunately discovered it before they lost the chain. Unfortunately the higher the speed, the more likely a clip master link is likely to fail, especially if the clip is installed backwards. For the minimal additional cost ($~40 over your life of riding/maintaining bikes), plus the fact you need one anyway to shorten an off the shelf chain (off the shelf chains are sold in increments of 10 links usually) or remove an old chain with a rivet link, means it is the best way to go.
to each there own.. and to shorten a chain i just use a file to grind down the rivets then pry the plate off

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