530 Chain conversion

[trialsguy]

That would be illogical.

[trialsguy]

Originally Posted by trialsguy

That would be illogical.

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[crow]

Originally Posted by trialsguy

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Ok I don't get it.. what's Spock got to do it or with quoting yourself?

This thread is freaking me out again. I'm gonna keep this one from myself doing any harm no matter what!!?? to anything....right!! chickens are now exempt!!! We need to eat!! Huh you want some too!! I'll behead your egg laying mother!!
Now that's illogic mate right from the Royalla funny farm.. Grrr the damned Turkey in my glass again.. bleh!

[trialsguy]

Originally Posted by crow

Ok I don't get it.. what's Spock got to do it or with quoting yourself?

I was attempting to make a point in a humorus way.

It apparently didn't work.

If you recall from the original Star Trek series, in numerous episodes, when the officers and crew of the Enterprise were faced with a crisis, Mr. Spock would point out to Captain Kirk or other officers when they were being "illogical" in their reactions to the situation that they were thrown into or in their crafting of a solution to the crisis that the crew was facing at the time. [If you aren't familiar with the Star Trek series or Mr. Spock, then please proceed to the next thread].

So anyway, my point was - it is unrealistic to expect that you can obtain relevant statisical drive chain test data from one person on an internet forum.

Unless a forum user attaches a link to a good research paper, internet forums are comprised almost entirely anedotal information, experiences and opinions. And much of it is pretty interesting and entertaining, too.

[crow]

Originally Posted by trialsguy

I was attempting to make a point in a humorus way.

It apparently didn't work.

If you recall from the original Star Trek series, in numerous episodes, when the officers and crew of the Enterprise were faced with a crisis, Mr. Spock would point out to Captain Kirk or other officers when they were being "illogical" in their reactions to the situation that they were thrown into or in their crafting of a solution to the crisis that the crew was facing at the time. [If you aren't familiar with the Star Trek series or Mr. Spock, then please proceed to the next thread].

So anyway, my point was - it is unrealistic to expect that you can obtain relevant statisical drive chain test data from one person on an internet forum.

Unless a forum user attaches a link to a good research paper, internet forums are comprised almost entirely anedotal information, experiences and opinions. And much of it is pretty interesting and entertaining, too.

Yeah I do get it now mate sorry it should've clicked.. Your quite right on your other points too. I'm all for the entertainment ratio's to keep things fun!

[Mursili]

Originally Posted by trialsguy

If you recall from the original Star Trek series, in numerous episodes, when the officers and crew of the Enterprise were faced with a crisis, Mr. Spock would point out to Captain Kirk or other officers when they were being "illogical" in their reactions to the situation that they were thrown into or in their crafting of a solution to the crisis that the crew was facing at the time.

So anyway, my point was - it is unrealistic to expect that you can obtain relevant statisical drive chain test data from one person on an internet forum.

I will say that, inevitably, Captain Kirk would use his illogic (unless he was dealing with some sort of computer) to overcome the situation. Spock was rarely the solution, but he was sure a useful resource. After all - how else would you know that you had a 99.897% chance of failing....

I do not expect to receive a useful response to my statement. Rather, I was responding to the "It is bigger and therefore better" aspect of the thread. It turns out engineers actual provide useful services to society. To simply say that a 530 chain will last longer than a 520 chain possesses the same level of consideration as saying a Denebian Slime Devil is as dangerous as the Borg.

[Synthetic_Darkness]

I will check on the sprockets for you.

Ok everyone really needs to simmer down. I can't believe that most people are giving me slack about "wanting to try something new".

Yes most likely any "data" I find will not count as proper data, as many things will reduce the life of your chain. No I most likely will not stick to a schedule when it comes to chain maintenance. I am just giving it a shot, because why? Because why not? Because if people didn't try anything new on their Versys' (Versy?) we woudnt have speedy's suspension lowering kit. Touring screens. Non OEM tyres.

[Synthetic_Darkness]

I can tell you guys this though. I have been riding with this chain for just under a month, with no maintenance (long story, moved house. Left lube behind). I've been pulling small "clutch up" wheelies about 10 times a day. I have noticed no chain slack. I've done around 1000km's

Before everyone gets all technical. Yes I am aware that all RK chains are pre-stretched in the factory. Just an observation.

[crow]

Originally Posted by Mursili

I will say that, inevitably, Captain Kirk would use his illogic (unless he was dealing with some sort of computer) to overcome the situation. Spock was rarely the solution, but he was sure a useful resource. After all - how else would you know that you had a 99.897% chance of failing....

I do not expect to receive a useful response to my statement. Rather, I was responding to the "It is bigger and therefore better" aspect of the thread. It turns out engineers actual provide useful services to society. To simply say that a 530 chain will last longer than a 520 chain possesses the same level of consideration as saying a Denebian Slime Devil is as dangerous as the Borg.

I always say you can't pay for some forms of entertainment. I've got no idea!! But love the point trying to be made for it's creativity even if I can't decide what the take on the situation is.. started out in favour then seemed to swing to a 50/50 in the following sentence. Not even sure which Captain Kirk is unfairly copping it either..
I did say we'll keep her alive here for the next 30,000 km or miles.. Love it!! A good old fashioned wrangle over a nonsensical theory. Politicians thrive on it and we vote for them to run our countries and manage our money.
Big seems best when you wanna be heavy though I'll agree..

[crow]

Originally Posted by Synthetic_Darkness

I can tell you guys this though. I have been riding with this chain for just under a month, with no maintenance (long story, moved house. Left lube behind). I've been pulling small "clutch up" wheelies about 10 times a day. I have noticed no chain slack. I've done around 1000km's

I been doing clutch up wheelies on my trials bike for the last 2 years at around 100 a day and that chain is smaller than a 520 and has no O rings either. No adjustment there yet either.. Nothing technical to add today.

[fasteddiecopeman]

Originally Posted by Synthetic_Darkness

...Ok everyone really needs to simmer down. I can't believe that most people are giving me slack about "wanting to try something new"....

I don't think it's "...about "wanting to try something new"...". It's "...wanting to try something new..." that makes no good sense to whoever.

An example could be = sort of like planning to 'spoon' a Harley-type rear tire onto a V. It raises the question: Why?

Your bike: IF it works for YOU - have at it!

[trialsguy]

Originally Posted by fasteddiecopeman

I don't think it's "...about "wanting to try something new"...". It's "...wanting to try something new..." that makes no good sense to whoever.

An example could be = sort of like planning to 'spoon' a Harley-type rear tire onto a V. It raises the question: Why?

Your bike: IF it works for YOU - have at it!

There is an old quote that goes - "We are from the IRS, and we are here to help you."

Well - We are the Kawasaki Versys Forum, and we are here to help you!

[ttpete]

I was at the IMS motorcycle show yesterday, and had a good close look at a Ducati GP racebike. Guess what? 520 chain!

[invader]

Originally Posted by ttpete

I was at the IMS motorcycle show yesterday, and had a good close look at a Ducati GP racebike. Guess what? 520 chain!

D.I.D 2012 Sponsored Teams & Riders-

FIM Road Racing World Championship MotoGP

Ducati MotoGP team- Ducati Desmosedici 2012- Valentino Rossi/Nicky Hayden: DID520ERV3

Yamaha Factory Racing- Yamaha '12 YZR-M1- Jorge Lorenzo/Ben Spies: DID520ERV3

http://www.didchain.com/raceNews.html

http://www.didchain.com/roadChains.html

[kiwitourer]

Originally Posted by invader

D.I.D 2012 Sponsored Teams & Riders-

FIM Road Racing World Championship MotoGP

Ducati MotoGP team- Ducati Desmosedici 2012- Valentino Rossi/Nicky Hayden: DID520ERV3

Yamaha Factroy Racing- Yamaha '12 YZR-M1- Jorge Lorenzo/ Ben Spies: DID520ERV3

http://www.didchain.com/raceNews.html

http://www.didchain.com/roadChains.html

It would be interesting to know if these chains are replaced after every race meeting and what is the lifespan in milage on the above bikes in race mode.

[ttpete]

Originally Posted by kiwitourer

It would be interesting to know if these chains are replaced after every race meeting and what is the lifespan in milage on the above bikes in race mode.

If I were sponsored by a chain company and getting all the free chain I wanted, I'd certainly change it out as often as I could. Considering the power those bikes make, I'd probably start with a new chain and change it again after practice.

A 520 chain is as strong as a 525 or 530 chain. The only difference is that the rollers are wider, and this affects sprocket wear to an extent. My preference is to use 520 chain and steel sprockets or a Supersprox rear that has steel teeth riveted onto an aluminum body and to change the sprockets at the same time as the chain.

[oldkawboy]

Hey ttpete,

I was working the Novi IMS at the Kawasaki display, wish I knew you were coming we coulda visited.......or may have if you stopped by.

Dan

[crow]

The chain keeps rolling... seems to be a 520 though..

[ttpete]

Originally Posted by oldkawboy

Hey ttpete,

I was working the Novi IMS at the Kawasaki display, wish I knew you were coming we coulda visited.......or may have if you stopped by.

Dan

I was with the Norton club display.

[oldkawboy]

Maybe next year Pete.....
Dan