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Old 10-19-2012, 08:21 AM
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Was looking at these:
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:23 AM
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I had to sell my SC seat. I lowered the bike with Speedy's links, and the bike was perfect for me. The SC seat raised me back up to stock height and moved my back farther. I'm living with the stock seat for in town riding. If I go for a longer ride, I put the Airhawk on.

The quality of the SC seat is not in doubt. So much so, that I'm going to give it another try with an SC seat for my CRF250L. I'll take the whole bike to my seat guy, and we can mod it as needed.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:06 PM
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I think the shoulder issue had more to do with riding with a backpack all day...so I'll hold on that risers thought for a while, I think I'll keep it just as it is. No seat will be perfect for everyone, but it's perfect for me and for the price the quality is impeccable. If you're tired of the slop on the stock seat and are 5'10" or taller, give it a try. Worse case scenario, you put it back for sale on this forum and it's gone in 24h, at 150$ you can't lose much. Not the case if you bought the seat 4-600$ and it doesnt fit you well...I highly recommend it. If you live near Montreal and want to check it out in person, give me a shout!


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Old 10-24-2012, 05:10 PM
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I'll throw my .02 on the SC seat. A lot has already been noted by others and I agree with most of what has already been said......

My bike is lowered, not with Speedy's lowering kit but with a Ninja shock, I think it's about the same height however.

At first I didn't care for it much. Totally different feel (riding position) with the SC seat. Then I pulled the bars back towards me a tad until it felt comfortable, made a huge difference. At first, the SC seat had me to far back, now I've learned to just scoot up a bit, another huge difference. The more I ride on the seat the more I like it. Now that I've forgotten how the old seat felt, the SC is a keeper. It took some time to adjust however like anything else the more you do something the comfortable it becomes. On a scale of 1-10, I give it a 7.5 and yes I'd recommend trying it. By the way, I'm around 5'9.

PS, same as above, if anyone wants to try it out who lives around Atlanta just let me know.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:07 AM
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Unless it is the same height as stock it's no good to me, I already lowered my bike and going higher would not help. I do need to rotate my bars back an inch or so they are just a touch forward for me. Yes my arse is too close to the ground.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:42 AM
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Unless it is the same height as stock it's no good to me, I already lowered my bike and going higher would not help. I do need to rotate my bars back an inch or so they are just a touch forward for me. Yes my arse is too close to the ground.
You can contact them, I think they were working on a low version...
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:18 AM
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Too many people are over thinking the whole seat issue!!! 5000 km and nothing but a big smile on my face!
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:01 AM
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Thats a cheap solution for sure...but when looks are also important I think the Concept Seat is a nice upgrade
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:12 AM
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A tip for folks looking at Seat Concepts: Google "Seat Concepts Coupons" and you'll find at least one or two, usually giving you somewhere around $15 off. Some are associated with forums for other bikes, but the coupon is still honored by the website at checkout.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:16 PM
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How does the passenger portion of the SC compare to the stock, I really would like to eliminate it in the stock. I feel like scooting back a bit but I cant because of the hump. Maybe the higher rise in the groin area of the SC helps compensate this by keeping you from sliding forward?
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:24 PM
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The passenger seat on the SC is slightly higher (my friend felt like it was just higher enough to make it less comfortable to grab the handles on the sides), and having the front seat go further back it makes the passenger a bit closer to you. But she does not slide towards you, even if visually the stock one as a hump that seems like it helps keep the passenger on the back, in reality there isnt a great difference in how the passenger seat keeps the passenger in place.
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I just had one made for me and find it to be excellent. Not sliding forward makes riding better. Nice company. Recommended.
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Great comparison Joe!

Here's a Euro company that makes custom comfort seats for 145 euros. It seems, since its custom foam cut, like an economical good alternative: but I don't know how you would test seat the product. Maybe if I had more time to read it better to find out if its possible. I sit right on the hump with padding and would like the 3" back from padding for leg reach. The Motok Comfort seat (cover with custom fit pads) seems like a good product.

http://www.motok-seats.com/store/com...ersys-659.html


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#1 Terry Adcock Flat Seat. All Day Comfort. No Foward Slide. Able to move back on the seat because the hump has been removed.Most comfortable and least expensive of the lot. Great Quality.Not great for 2up because of removing most of the foam from the pillon area.But he does design a normal seat also.

#2 Baldwin. Very Comfortable.Great Quality. Only negative for me was the riders area was to short.I was up against or riding on the edge of the hump from the pillon area.

#3 Russell Day Long. Very Comfortable Ride Great Quality.With the wings on the seat when you come to a stop or stradle the bike it spreads your legs wider.So you have to slide to the tank to get you feet on the ground.If your having trouble flatfooting with the stock seat you won't be able to with the russell.

#4 Corbin More Comfortable Than Stock Seat.A little softer than a brick. Worst Build Quality of all the seats listed. Material around the lower edge of the seat wears and rips easily.

#5 Kawi Gel Seat. Similar to the Corbin but better build quality.Only reason it listed lower than the corbin is because the seat is so over priced.

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Old 01-10-2015, 05:07 PM
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Great comparison Joe!

Here's a Euro company that makes custom comfort seats for 145 euros. It seems, since its custom foam cut, like an economical good alternative: but I don't know how you would test seat the product. Maybe if I had more time to read it better to find out if its possible. I sit right on the hump with padding and would like the 3" back from padding for leg reach. The Motok Comfort seat (cover with custom fit pads) seems like a good product.

http://www.motok-seats.com/store/com...ersys-659.html


Well that was before i got a Seat Concepts Seat. Which i preferred more than the Terry Adcock Seat. Their located in Hemet so its a short ride for you to check them out in person....
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Old 01-10-2015, 11:18 PM
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No one ever posts a SC pic on Vs. 650.

Even the SC web site Product for models does not work.

And the reviews from people below 6'-1" are unanimously against them.

So I do not have anything positive to go by on the site, except for 6'2" Joe likes them. And if I was another inch taller, that would be enough for me. My modular pads are working fine and I can adjust them better. I was just thinking what if, but the cheapest (pretty well thought-out) solution wins again.

This is a great site for guiding Vs. owners. It's got 99% of everything, and Joe's tried them all. THANKS JOE! You are the Man! You've spent a lot of money and time on all of the accessories.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:09 AM
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No one ever posts a SC pic on Vs. 650.

Even the SC web site Product for models does not work.

And the reviews from people below 6'-1" are unanimously against them.

So I do not have anything positive to go by on the site, except for 6'2" Joe likes them. And if I was another inch taller, that would be enough for me. My modular pads are working fine and I can adjust them better. I was just thinking what if, but the cheapest (pretty well thought-out) solution wins again.

This is a great site for guiding Vs. owners. It's got 99% of everything, and Joe's tried them all. THANKS JOE! You are the Man! You've spent a lot of money and time on all of the accessories.
At 6' with a 30" inseam I have been very happy with my Seat Concepts seat.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:33 AM
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Well, I checked out Sargents seats on this site, an maybe people did not use their 30 day trail to its advantage. A $350 softball mitt takes 30 days to break in, so a $350 seat may need to be broken in as one member here said from having one for a while.

Ebay had them for about $350 lowered (all this lowering and rising stuff changes with every other additional piece - ??) Except, they are still sitting on a fence post seat design (see below.)

ANYWAY, I saw my favorite design to date (For BMW F650, F800, Suzuki DL650, and Kawasaki KLR650,... Dang it! No Vs. 650) They are Saddlemen seats styled like a BMW G450X craddle seat styled like a Spider Flex bicycle seat (the ONLY way I can ride a bicycle!) It's the inverse of riding on fence post, for men or women. I have always thought they looked like the perfect motorcycle seat, or the closest design to the SpiderFlex bicycle seat for motorcycles. The dual rail means you can sit all over it in different positions track racing or touring in comfort, changing positions to maintain circulation in all parts of your bottom and legs (even sitting in a perfect position is not perfect forever and will cut circulation off anywhere bones are bottomed out at.)

I did ergonomics, work physiology, time/methods/posture/repetition, and other anatomical designs in manufacturing operations of all types. Then I was forced to look at bicycles when I had problems riding without getting cramps in my tail bone. Now I may be ready to see if I can get a Saddlemen seat, my long time favorite from a CA BMW dealer web site. Hopefully it should not be too different between a KLR and/or a BMW 650?? BUTT (ha ha), it should be obviously the theoretical best motorcycle seat design to anyone who knows about Spiderflex bicycle seats (I mean it's not that difficult, hanging or crushing your privates, and comfortable ways to change seating positions...duh!)

Anyway, from many aspects, the Saddlemen track seats (made for dual purpose bikes generally) are the best designed seat for man and woman for any kind of motorcycle riding. It should theoretically raise anyone's maximum seat time touring in significantly more comfort

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saddlemen-Ad...item48779bfae9


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The Corbins Okay but out of the 5 different brands of seats i've bought it ranks 4th. The quality is lacking on the corbin the material on the lower portion of the seat rips easily.
I'd like to hope yours is a one off problem. I've owned a few Corbin seats and put tens of thousands of miles on each of them over the course of several years. They were ridden and parked in all kinds of nasty conditions.

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When I was finished with the bikes, I sold them all for half the price I bought them for, still looking damn near brand new.

The nice thing about Corbins is you can pretty much spec them with any material or geometry changes you like, though admittedly, sometimes working with their phone staff can be challenging.

If there is one thing bad I could say about a Corbin seat it might be that the weight of the seat pan is considerably heavier than the competition. Then again, you couldn't harm it with an atomic bomb.

People are often put off by the stiff foam they use as it doesn't feel nearly as cushy as most seats. Put 12 hours in the saddle and the benefits of that stiff foam become readily apparent.
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Well, I checked out Sargents seats on this site


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saddlemen-Ad...item48779bfae9

if you go to the Ebay site you listed..and run a Versys through the fit calculator..the Saddlemen don't fit a Versys...Having said that..I ride a Sargent's low seat on my 2012..and I love it...my skinny bonny butt can sit in that baby all day...I did add a TechSpec seat pad to keep from sliding up into to gas tank and mashing my nads (that was from bad riding skills more than from the seat...if you grip the tank with your knees..like you are supposed to do..sliding up into the tank and mashing your nads won't happen..D'oh)...thinking back..the Sargents seat did seem a lot stiffer when I first got it...

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if you go tohttp://www.saddlemen.com/custom-seats the Ebay site you listed..and run a Versys through the fit calculator..the Saddlemen don't fit a Versys...Having said that..I ride a Sargent's low seat on my 2012..and I love it...my skinny bonny butt can sit in that baby all day...I did add a TechSpec seat pad to keep from sliding up into to gas tank and mashing my nads (that was from bad riding skills more than from the seat...if you grip the tank with your knees..like you are supposed to do..sliding up into the tank and mashing your nads won't happen..D'oh)...thinking back..the Sargents seat did seem a lot stiffer when I first got it...

Good point that Saddlemen does not make a Track Adventure seat for Vs. 650. That was what I tried to communicate when I said, "ANYWAY, I saw my favorite design to date (For BMW F650, F800, Suzuki DL650, and Kawasaki KLR650,... Dang it! No Vs. 650)" in the last 3 words.

However, Saddlemen is about up to a third less than most custom seats (low $300 range), they are the only one with the best theoretical channel sitting design, and they incorporate the gel on the side mounds as a standard feature. I am thinking (or hoping at least) that because of their thrifty nature, that the customs will not be much more. The Custom page below seems more like a 'plug and play' option selection:

http://www.saddlemen.com/custom-seats

Maybe because it was the only one Joe did not try, Sargent was left on my short list. But they do not give them away (even to Veterans), so after finding the Saddlemen brand on Ebay and looking on their site, Saddlemen are quite a reasonable cost ergonomic and anthropometric seating device. I would never invest in another fence post straddle design seat, especially for over $400. If they are as negligible a design alteration as I assume, hopefully there will(!) be Vs. 650 Saddlemen Track seat option in the future (and of course a low height (esp.) gel option too.)

The ONLY seating design options before were: soft, hard, wide, thin. It is just like bicycles and there is only one seat I'd ride on from Canada: Spiderflex. This is not because of perceptions but is because of pain and availability.

Getting a Saddlemen Track seat option for the Vs. 650 would be my contribution to the site for all those guys who want the best value and performance bike; and will not stop at stretching their toes on both sides of their seat at every redlight. This seat is for You (@ est. $320 ea)!
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