: New Custom Seat By Baldwin Motorbike Saddles
Gowindward 08-22-2009, 05:06 PM I wanted to share one of my latest custom saddle projects. A local guy with a Kawasaki 650 Versys (what a great bike) came and saw me last week with Sciatic nerve pain in his left leg and butt cheek. The stock seat was killing him. I did a Pro Pad gel insert and used orthopedic memory foam replacing a good amount of the stock foam and giving the seat a better contour for him. Then stitched up a new custom cover. It turned out looking real sharp IMHO.
Here are photos of the seat
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3987&stc=1&d=1250978425
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Loren
Baldwin Motorbike Saddles
www.MotorbikeSaddles.com
glowcat13 08-22-2009, 05:25 PM Looks great, did it lower the seat height, how comfy is it. what was the price? and what did you use for covering material. like the stitching, did I mention it looks great.
Bear on a bicycle 08-22-2009, 05:29 PM Looks great. I visited your site, but didn't see prices anywhere. What kind of prices are we looking at? What if I don't want gel?
Gowindward 08-22-2009, 05:55 PM Thanks guys! Sam the biker owner brought it to me after an auto trim shop had done some carving on it from the stock form, so I didn’t have a real good reference for stock height, but I think it is just a bit lower, mainly because I removed the forward slope of the seat by flattening out the rear. It was a custom fit job, so that is what I was focused on. The seat felt real good on the bike when I tried it out, and Sam had a huge smile on his face after a short test ride.
It’s covered in Vanguard by Futura and BoltaSoft weave pattern. Both are high end marine vinyls with really nice hand to them both.
Yes my web site is geared towards Buell seats and then I quote one off jobs like this one. Pricing would be $395 with the Pro Pad Gel insert and $325 without, but still using the orthopedic memory foam, which I select density based on rider weight and build. Of course with it being custom, stitching color can be changed, and there are other options for vinyl covers. Leather is always an upgrade option too.
JimJim 08-22-2009, 07:27 PM Very nice looking seat!
StonedGP 08-23-2009, 07:36 AM The red stitching is sweet. Nice job.
bscott 08-23-2009, 07:51 AM Nice looking seat! I like the different type of material used as well as the stitching.
AND comfort to boot??? What's not to like?
And my Saturday morning ride took me through Baldwin City yesterday morning.
mudduck 08-23-2009, 10:49 AM That is one of the best looking seats I've seen. Nice job!!
Gowindward 08-23-2009, 07:35 PM Thanks guys! It's always nice to have people like my work.
Bscott, that would be my stomping grounds. Nothing like a small town as you would know being from Desoto.
I added a page on my website for the Versys seat. If I can pick up a used stock seat I will add the seat to my seat core program.
Oxifer 08-23-2009, 08:44 PM I emailed them last night with questions and got a prompt response with a ton of info. These guys seem to be right on as far as customer service go, even asked me to call in to discuss any modification I was requesting to make sure it would work out. Baldwin very well may become the Corbin killer.
Gowindward 08-26-2009, 10:17 PM Baldwin very well may become the Corbin killer.
Thanks! Don't I wish. Certainly a David versus Goliath. LOL
Thanks to a couple of members here I will soon have a couple of stock seats for use in a seat core exchange program. It helps keep everyone riding and that's what it's all about.
See here:
http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Core%20Charge.htm
mcampana 08-27-2009, 07:54 AM Great price. I think ill be going this way. I'd like a review after a couple weeks of driving though.
Sam Barker 08-27-2009, 06:42 PM I’m the guy Loren built the seat for.
It was difficult to describing how the seat was affecting my sciatic nerve, but Loren was able to take my words and interpret them in to a seat that most riders would agree is a vast improvement over the stock seat.
Sam Barker
mcampana 08-27-2009, 08:22 PM So how long have you had the seat? Is it lower than stock? More comfy for longer rides now?
Sam Barker 08-27-2009, 10:31 PM It's 10:30 pm and I'm still not packed for my road, got to go.Talk to you in a month or so.
Sam Barker
Gowindward 08-29-2009, 12:13 PM Sam, thanks for the kind words. Maybe we will pass you on some curvy road in Arkansas next weekend. We will certainly be riding the pig trail sometime over the weekend.
Just to let everyone else know I now have a couple of stock seats to use for seat core exchanges. I appreciate the interested!
Ride safe and keep the shiny side up.
kwanjura 08-31-2009, 07:02 AM just ordered seat yesterday. Customer service was excellent will give a full ride report when i receive it. Heading to the motorcycle museum on friday where you at bear?
Bear on a bicycle 08-31-2009, 03:43 PM just ordered seat yesterday. Customer service was excellent will give a full ride report when i receive it. Heading to the motorcycle museum on friday where you at bear?
You're not too far from me! Should be a good ride for you, though getting through/around San Antonio will be the worst part of the ride.
Thanks for the invite, but I'll be with the wife doing birthday stuff. It's her birthday. We're thinking of driving up to Austin for the day. I tried to get her to go to the Hill Country, but she's a city girl. :D
Oh, & welcome aboard!!
Gowindward 09-03-2009, 11:03 AM Thanks to the members here I have been able to add Versys seats to my Core Exchange program and have had the chance to make another custom Versys seat. Here's the latest! Also a couple of photos comparing to the stock seat. Hopefully Kevin will chime it once he receives the new saddle. Kevin, again thanks for the business. If your like me you are forever waiting on the Brown Truck! LOL
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4064&stc=1&d=1251993229
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mcampana 09-03-2009, 01:04 PM So is it the same height as the stock seat when your sitting on it? Id like a good 2 week evaluation from someone on how the seat feels.
Gowindward 09-03-2009, 06:44 PM So is it the same height as the stock seat when your sitting on it?
This seat was kept near the stock seat height. Comfort over low seat height.
To keep a level seating surface, the seat height could only be reduced 1/2" to 3/4" IMHO without giving up some comfort in the rear of the seat at the outer edges, due to the shape of the seat pan. To reduce the seat height more would require giving up on the level seating surface. Bit of a double edged sword for the short inseam riders. From looking at photos of the factory low gel seat, it has even a greater forward slope. Can anyone confirm?
As for ride reports, give it time. These saddles are rare as rocking horse poop right now. :D
From the pictures it looks a bit wider and has a longer flat surface which should help to keep the dreaded forward slide under control. Gowindward am I seeing it right or is it an optical allusion?
Gowindward 09-04-2009, 08:50 AM Nick, Yes the seat is flat and level, and does away with the tank riding slope. The seat is no wider than stock.
oldkawboy 09-08-2009, 05:19 PM I've seen several custom seats this past year including mine for the Versys and Loren's is the best looking one yet.
Well done!
Dan
Cyclesurfer 09-08-2009, 05:34 PM Does it solve the sliding forwards problem??
kwanjura 09-08-2009, 11:19 PM Received baldwin saddle today. Forward slope is gone,ordered mine with gell insert. Went for a short in town ride this afternoon and wow what a difference. Ready to take another 400 mile day to see the difference on the long haul. Build quality was excellent and really compliments the look of the versys. This may very well be the best mod I have made to the V.
JimJim 09-09-2009, 08:58 AM Received baldwin saddle today. Forward slope is gone,ordered mine with gell insert. Went for a short in town ride this afternoon and wow what a difference. Ready to take another 400 mile day to see the difference on the long haul. Build quality was excellent and really compliments the look of the versys. This may very well be the best mod I have made to the V.
How about some pictures?
Bear on a bicycle 09-13-2009, 07:44 PM Either it's the stealth version, or your pictures didn't show up...
:D
Did you get my PM??
:thumb:
kwanjura 09-14-2009, 09:10 PM http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss346/kwanjura/pics276.jpg
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sorry it took so long to post pictures. Seat is a major improvement over stock. can't wait to take it on a long trip to give a better review.
Bear on a bicycle 09-14-2009, 09:47 PM I noticed the little edge between the front & rear seat. Did you want it like that & can you feel it?
kwanjura 09-14-2009, 10:27 PM When I received the seat I thought that kicker may be a problem. You don't even know its there when you sit on it, had to reach behind me to see if it was still there. I believe it gives the seat a custom look. Wanted to get red stitching but wanted the option to use on different colored versys. The gell insert and memory foam really take away the pressure points. Loren needed my weight and build so this really is a custom saddle built for a specific person.
Gowindward 09-15-2009, 11:46 AM Kevin, the bike looks great.
I do try fitting the saddle to the rider based on information I get from them, such as height, weight, build. A saddle that sits you to far back becomes just as uncomfortable as one that sits you to far forward. These are not just a run of the mill aftermarket seats, I'm really trying to fit the rider the best I can within the limits of the bike and stock seat pan. It helps having customers like Sam and Kevin that help figure that out.
The best looking aftermarket seat I've seen so far. Like the black thread.
marc11 09-16-2009, 09:03 AM I'm sold, I ordered mine today. Basket weave with plain sides and red stiching with the gel pad insert. I'll post a report once it arrives, he is estimating around October 10th at this moment.
surferbum 09-16-2009, 12:19 PM I have severe case of numb butt for rides > 45 minutes. Am going on a long ride soon so I have ordered one. Look forward to the new seat.:)
douglasgraham 09-16-2009, 12:43 PM Looks like it would lower your butt a tad in the saddle, which I think is the ticket. The stock seat has a tendency to push you forward and causes your crotch to go to sleep on long rides. It looks great.
Gowindward 09-22-2009, 08:11 PM I built a couple of custom tall seats this last week. Increased seat height by 1 inch and moved the rider back 1 inch into the pillion. Here are a couple of photos.
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4227&stc=1&d=1253668114
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jmlmjmjm 09-22-2009, 09:44 PM Loren,
Love the looks of your saddles....yet, I'm having a hard time reconciling the double lip thing.
How is that not felt by the operator and why do you build your saddle(s) that way?
Gowindward 09-23-2009, 05:52 AM Loren,
Love the looks of your saddles Thanks!
....yet, I'm having a hard time reconciling the double lip thing.
I take it you mean the area between the rider and pillion cushions?
How is that not felt by the operator and why do you build your saddle(s) that way? It is foam and the rider is sitting in front of it and not on top of it. The foam would become to thin IMHO if it was flush with the pillion. I think the rider would feel that in his tail bone. The customer should receive the saddle today....maybe he will chime in and give you a review. :D
Now the beauty of custom saddle work, is if you don't like the look it can be changed by adding foam to the pillion and bring it to the front. In the case of the "Tall" seat the rider wanted more room to the rear, so that would have conflicted with meeting that requirement.
asheville thumper 09-23-2009, 06:43 AM That tall seat is the best seat I've seen yet for the Versys.
Loren-
Could the seat be built up so that it is the height of that "lip" near the passenger seat in the tall seat picture. Would that give it about a 1.5-2" rise? Thanks for your help. I'm 6'6" with a 36 inseam and this seat plus lowered foot pegs may seal the deal on a Versys for me.
Gowindward 09-23-2009, 06:57 AM Asheville, Thanks! and yes it could be leveled off with the step between the rider and pillion. I'm thinking that would increase the stock seat height by 2+ inches.
eggejm11 09-23-2009, 06:58 AM how tall was the rider requesting the "tall seat"? I'm 6'4" 35 inseam does the tall version cost any different?
Gowindward 09-23-2009, 07:06 AM Eggejm11, He is the same specs as you.
See here for prices for the tall. There is an additional cost due to materials and time involved.
http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Kawasaki%20Versys%20Tall%20Seats.htm
bbarend 09-23-2009, 09:15 AM I also like the taller seat a lot! I am 6'3" and really think the V could have been a little taller. Now to find some extra cash laying around.
mcampana 09-23-2009, 09:34 AM Can you still use the helmet hooks under the seat?
Gowindward 09-23-2009, 12:59 PM Can you still use the helmet hooks under the seat?
I don't see why you couldn't. The lower edge profile of the seat has not changed or the attachment.
Angus 09-23-2009, 02:57 PM As a long time sufferer of sciatica, I learned how to keep the nerve quiet. Go online or have a physical therapist show you how to stretch out your Piriform muscle on both sides. Also the psoas muscles. If I stretch both out every day after warming up with a brisk walk, I can remain pain free. Best of luck! Angus.
asheville thumper 09-23-2009, 04:41 PM Eggejm11, He is the same specs as you.
See here for prices for the tall. There is an additional cost due to materials and time involved.
http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Kawasaki%20Versys%20Tall%20Seats.htm
I got a feeling your about to get an increase in "tall" seat orders. I sure know my 6'6" self will need one!
Friendlyfocus 09-23-2009, 09:02 PM Greetings all,
I did receive my new seat tonight. Extremely beautiful work. I took a few before and after shots in the garage here that I'll show you. Pardon the clutter please :D
http://uileat.com/uileatphotos/albums/uploads/P1010045.jpg
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The materials and stitching are gorgeous, and the vinyl feels higher quality to the touch than the stock seat. The seating surface is nice and even, and is VERY supportive. I did get the Pro-Pad insert option, and I am pleased to report that it isn't super-squishy or gooey feeling. It is very firm and extremely comfortable. As he mentioned above I am 6'4" with a 34-35 inseam (depending on how the pants are made) and 250 (sadly fairly flabby) pounds.
I took note of the first Baldwin seat when he first posted it as the workmanship was undoubtedly stunning. I kept a bookmark on it and was encouraged by follow-up from other users who praised his communication and his own involvement in the thread. After the second saddle was posted I decided to send him an email. I told him what I was looking for as a taller, heavier rider, with a firm buildup of the seat slope and tucking the rear of the seating surface back. His response was extremely encouraging as he understood exactly what I was talking about and responded with some suggestions of his own. It sounded like he's been corresponding with a few other taller riders with similar needs as well.
The seat feels absolutely great and is a substantial improvement, both in the seating position and posture, and also the feel of the seat itself. Do not hold back on the Pro-Pad, it is not a jelly mouse pad or a breast implant, the seat feels perfectly firm and supportive. Plus the custom looks really looks fantastic on the bike.
A few last photos for those concerned with the "ridge" on the back... I was naturally sitting fully back on the seat and there was no discomfort of any kind, your sit bones contact on the flat seat surface and your rear end curves up and back against the pillion nicely. Unless you've got hatchet butt-cheeks of granite I cannot fathom it being an issue. As you can see in the following pics it is nice squishy memory foam under there.
http://uileat.com/uileatphotos/albums/uploads/P1010049.jpg
http://uileat.com/uileatphotos/albums/uploads/P1010050.jpg
For some ending thoughts and feedback, anyone as tall or taller than I shouldn't have any trouble with the seat height being raised a higher and farther back. I'm not sure what the underlying logistics of increasing it more would be, but the 6'6" guy could probably use even more height and room to the rear. But there's only so much you can do with that seat pan sloping up to the pillion spot.
I believe I can truthfully claim that Loren makes THE BEST seat for us tall guys on the Versys, period. Do not hesitate to at least send him an email if you're considering a custom seat of any kind, the guy just plain knows what he's doing.
:thumb::thumb:
charlesleblanc 09-23-2009, 09:34 PM I really like the Baldwin seat but I have a question:
My V is equipped with a set of Givi V35 side case and I was wondering if the seat will clip properly with the sidecase rack installed.
There were some reports that the Corbin seat had issues when the Givi side case was installed.
kwanjura 09-23-2009, 09:53 PM Stock seat pan is retained. Seat fits just like the factory one. I have the Givi topcase mount, which I heard a Corbin seat pan would hit on and would have to re-shim it. Baldwin saddles are the way to go. :)
asheville thumper 09-24-2009, 06:12 AM Friendlyfocus- your seat looks great! Have you lowered your pegs as well? If so, did you use Speedy's lowering blocks or the MFW pegs? Would you mind posting your thoughts after a few rides? :cheers:
Gowindward 09-25-2009, 01:42 PM This saddle is sold :thanx:
Hey Gang, The saddle below is a standard height saddle with Pro Pad gel insert. It is cover in vinyl (basket weave insets) and black stitching.
My customer and his "V" were in an auto accident just prior to the new saddle arriving to him. He asked if I would take the saddle back and give him a refund, because he is going to be off the bike for a while and wasn't sure what the insurance outcome was going to be on the bike.
I said sure!
So I have this saddle on it's way back to me from California. If it arrives on schedule from UPS I will be able to ship it back out next Wednesday 9/30 if someone is interested in a quick delivery on a new saddle.
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4270&stc=1&d=1253902902
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4271&d=1253902902
marc11 09-25-2009, 01:54 PM Ship it to me :)
Gowindward 09-25-2009, 01:59 PM Yours is on the bench right now being gutted! LOL I expect to ship it out before Wed.
marc11 09-25-2009, 02:34 PM Cool, looking forward to it.
marc11 10-03-2009, 07:51 AM Mine came this week while I was away on business, so this morning the first thing I did was run down to the garage and put the seat on....I was like a kid at Christmas.
Quality is first rate all the way down to the neatness of the staples on the underside. I haven't ridden with the seat yet, but sitting on the bike I can feel the seat is more supportive, flatter and doesn't seem to push me forward into the tank.
I'll be riding tomorrow if the rain clears and will post a ride report.
Shockmunk 10-03-2009, 09:40 AM I want one, best mod Ive seen so far.....
surferbum 10-12-2009, 10:55 PM I have had my Baldwin seat for a couple of weeks now including a 700 mile ride. The seat is a big improvement over the OEM. No more sliding forward or numb butt. Loren of Baldwin Saddle got me the seat quickly to meet my trip start time. I still needed to stop every couple hours to stretch my legs which gave me butt a rest too. Really like the no forward sliding around town and would recommend the seat if you are upgrading the OEM.
hdatontodo 10-13-2009, 07:10 PM Got my tall Baldwin Gel Basket-Weave Nickel Thread Seat.
$524 + $25 s/h + $200 core deposit to loren@motorbikesaddles.com plus UPS ground to send your old saddle.
I am attaching some pictures.
I was eager to try it out, so I took a 20 minute trip, 1/2 interstate and 1/2 local roads.
When I first sat on it, I felt firm padding and a firm covering. It was way different from the soft padding and material on the stock seat. By the end of the ride, I could tell I was actually compressing the padding a bit.
Overall, it was firm but not hard, and I give it an "A" on first impression.
I was wearing my LL Bean fleece lined jeans which decrease friction.
Tony
Bear on a bicycle 10-13-2009, 07:19 PM Got my tall Baldwin Gel Basket-Weave Nickel Thread Seat.
$524 + $25 s/h + $200 core deposit to loren@motorbikesaddles.com
I am attaching some pictures.
I was eager to try it out, so I took a 20 minute trip, 1/2 interstate and 1/2 local roads.
When I first sat on it, I felt firm padding and a firm covering. It was way different from the soft padding and material on the stock seat. By the end of the ride, I coud tell I was actually compressing the padding a bit.
Overall, it was firm but not hard, and I give it an "A" on first impression.
I was wearing my LL Bean fleece lined jeans which decrease friction.
Tony
Did I read that wrong, $750.00???
:eek:
hdatontodo 10-13-2009, 07:32 PM Did I read that wrong, $750.00???
:eek:
Cha Ching. Gotta send back your old seat for a core charge refund.
It cost me $35.43 to ship the old seat back with $100 insurance.
Nortasaki 10-13-2009, 08:10 PM Very nice, looks great. Do make saddles for vintage british bikes like the Norton Commando?
Corbin makes a seat called the "Gunfighter" and charges $369
hdatontodo 10-13-2009, 09:17 PM Very nice, looks great. Do make saddles for vintage british bikes like the Norton Commando?
Corbin makes a seat called the "Gunfighter" and charges $369
You could email Loren Mock at loren@motorbikesaddles.com or call 785-393-0594 and ask.
Gowindward 10-13-2009, 09:49 PM The Norton sounds like a fun project.
hdatontodo 10-22-2009, 07:16 PM Super.
After receiving my new saddle, I mailed my OEM one in and got a prompt refund of the core charge.
Thanks,
Tony
Jimmyjam 10-22-2009, 07:46 PM do these seats feel as firm as the corbin does??
Gowindward 10-24-2009, 09:41 AM do these seats feel as firm as the corbin does??
It depends, we select an orthopedic memory foam firmness based on the riders weight and build that gives very comfortable body contouring support.
PSYCH 11-02-2009, 02:29 PM I am 6' tall with a 33" inseam. Would you recommend standard or tall configuration?
Gowindward 11-03-2009, 08:52 AM I am 6' tall with a 33" inseam. Would you recommend standard or tall configuration?
Answer these and I think your answers will give you some direction on standard vs tall.
Do your legs feel cramped while riding the bike?
Have you added lower foot pegs?
How is your reach to the bars? Do you feel in a relaxed position?
Do you find yourself sitting back on the pillion often to stretch out?
Do you ride with a passenger at times?
Thanks for the interest.
cb4017 11-09-2009, 01:29 AM Loren those seats look great. I'm going to be with one of those in the not too distant future.
hdatontodo 11-13-2009, 07:58 PM Since there is a link here from the Baldwin site, I wanted to mention in this thread that I rode 1,050 miles in a day on my Baldwin seat. It was great.
Tony
Gowindward 11-20-2009, 08:23 AM Tony,
Thanks, and I'm glad you are enjoying the seat time. We like happy butts! :D
Gowindward 01-30-2010, 07:35 AM For something a little new. I hunted high low this last fall looking for a green thread that would look good with the Candy Lime Green on the '09 bikes. I talked with a few distributors and came up with nothing. I finally called one of the large thread manufacturers and received a lead on the thread. Here are the final results of my search. It should be in the customer's hands on a couple of days. :cheers:
http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Versys/Custom%20Kawasaki%20Versys%20Seat%201%20Candy%20Li me%20Green%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles.jp g
sharrison56 01-30-2010, 08:26 AM That is a great looking seat.
Red Herring 01-30-2010, 10:40 AM I really like the look of your seat, but I am a little concerned that the step on the drivers portion would be somewhat uncomfortable. Have you thought about a gentler transition, like a smooth slope, or is it a non issue?
Gowindward 01-30-2010, 11:55 AM Thanks Steve!
Red Herring, Thanks, glad you like the look. I move the step between the rider and pillion fore and aft depending on customer specs and the contour is there to give your rear some support and it is orthopedic memory foam so it molds very well to the riders shape.
Try one.....You will love it!!!
Red Herring 01-30-2010, 01:04 PM I just might. My Russel is pretty darn comfy, but yours looks very nice too, as is more sporty looking!
vanguard2 02-16-2010, 11:21 AM I have a question about the Baldwin saddle with the propad gel insert.
Is the insert also in the pillion seat? May be easier to convince the wife if she knew the back seat would also be more comfortable!
Also I was wondering if in heavy rain water would leak through the seams into the foam of the seat?
Thanks
Vanguard2
Gowindward 02-16-2010, 08:55 PM I sent Vanguard an email, but just for everyone else. The seat modifications are to the riders position only, but we will do the same for the pillion at an additional fee to cover materials and time.
Priceless when it comes to having your favorite gal happy while riding on your sport bike.
The seams are not waterproof, so don't go doing any bathtub test but they are pretty tight and backed up with reinforcing tape.
LeanIntuit 02-28-2010, 01:04 PM Greetings Loren,
Congratulations on 1) making a great looking seat, and 2) earning the great feedback from your customers.
I have taken the questions you posed to Gowindward and answered them for myself in hopes that you can help me determine tall (~1") versus extra tall (~2" or taller):
Do your legs feel cramped while riding the bike? Yes - my old knees begin to ache on long rides.
Have you added lower foot pegs? No - prefer not to.
How is your reach to the bars? Just about perfect.
Do you feel in a relaxed position? Yes.
Do you find yourself sitting back on the pillion often to stretch out? Only to decrease knee bend.
Do you ride with a passenger at times? Just about never.
Other Info:
- 6'2" 215 lbs
- 34-35" inseam
- I love the slope elimination approach
Thank you! (posted this here so others might get useful data in their tall seat search)
Gowindward 02-28-2010, 07:39 PM Greetings Loren,
Congratulations on 1) making a great looking seat, and 2) earning the great feedback from your customers.
LeanIntuit, Thanks!
Since you have plenty of inseam length and your reach to the bars is near perfect, it sounds like going up would do you more than going up and back.
Which one do you feel will unfold your legs more?
Best of roads,
LeanIntuit 03-01-2010, 07:30 AM LeanIntuit, Thanks!
Since you have plenty of inseam length and your reach to the bars is near perfect, it sounds like going up would do you more than going up and back.
Which one do you feel will unfold your legs more?
Best of roads,
I like your question - partly because I just never thought about the relative fore and aft locations of the pegs and my current seating location (when I stretched my legs by scooting back, it was way back on the back of the seat for a few seconds). After looking at them from the side, it is clear that going back would help unfold the legs. Is it basically one or the other, or is there a shape that would allow for fore and aft movement while riding? (I will go back thru this thread and see if I missed any helpful perspectives on that question too)
Thank you Sir!
J B Nimble 03-07-2010, 11:42 PM The seat for a tall rider looks outstanding, what are the dimensions of the seat at its widest point compared to the old stock seat? When I had my KLR650 the new seat was 7" wider(3.5"x2) than the stock seat and yes it was quite a difference.
I am wondering if Baldwin would build the seat to a 5" larger width(2.5 inches on either side) in the tall for the extra amount they push the rider back. I hope I explained that right. I am wanting a wider seat and some support under my hamstrings, so if I am pushed back 1.5" and the width is increased it might work.
Gowindward 03-08-2010, 08:38 AM The seat for a tall rider looks outstanding, what are the dimensions of the seat at its widest point compared to the old stock seat?.
Seat is still at the stock width for our standard builds.
I am wondering if Baldwin would build the seat to a 5" larger width(2.5 inches on either side) in the tall for the extra amount they push the rider back. I hope I explained that right. I am wanting a wider seat and some support under my hamstrings, so if I am pushed back 1.5" and the width is increased it might work.
We have built a couple of saddles that we have made wider than stock. I will drop you a PM to discuss specs on a saddle with addtional mods to size and shape.
Thanks,
garet55947 03-30-2010, 07:17 AM I just received my new Baldwin seat yesterday. Hi seat, vinyl cover, gel insert, old gold stitching. Awesome, awesome, awesome! Loren hooked me up. Great job, highly recommended!
JimJim 03-30-2010, 10:07 AM I just received my new Baldwin seat yesterday. Hi seat, vinyl cover, gel insert, old gold stitching. Awesome, awesome, awesome! Loren hooked me up. Great job, highly recommended!
How about posting a picture of your new seat?
garet55947 03-30-2010, 12:54 PM Sorry, I am an analog kind of guy. I still take pictures with a 35mm Voigtlander. No digital pics for me and forget about posting any. Sorry.How about posting a picture of your new seat?
Trackrider54 06-27-2010, 05:18 PM Ordered my Baldwin Tall seat this morning. At 6'5" with a 36" inseam, the tall option sounded perfect.
The stock seat isn't the worst I've ever experienced, but my 235lb butt mashes it down pretty much.
weljo2001 06-27-2010, 07:37 PM Heres the stock and baldwin tall side by side.
[url]http://www.kawasakiversys.c
Wavshrdr 07-11-2010, 04:19 PM Does the passenger portion of the saddle have any better foam than the stock seat? How much to add gel for the rear passenger? My lady doesn't really like the stock seat and as a result no Versys in the garage yet.
I was riding my Versys in the city since I bought it. But last weekend I do a good Sunday ride with two friends (I meet here in Peru, from this page) and at the end of the ride (aprox. 250Kms) my butt begins to feel pain. I have to stand up several times so my butt take a recess.. you know what I mean. What could be the reason for this???
Thanks!
stahop 07-12-2010, 11:39 AM My new baldwin tall seat came last week.
All I can say is what an improvment.
I'm one happy camper now.
Gowindward 07-12-2010, 01:01 PM Does the passenger portion of the saddle have any better foam than the stock seat? How much to add gel for the rear passenger? My lady doesn't really like the stock seat and as a result no Versys in the garage yet.
Our standard offering does not have changes to the pillion portion of the saddle. We have made a few custom two up saddles with orthopedic memory foam and gel inserts in both rider and pillion positions, long with changing the shape to make the pillion much more passenger friendly.
Drop us an email and we will get you a quote for a custom two up saddle.
Gowindward 07-12-2010, 01:02 PM I'm one happy camper now.
We like making happy campers!:thumb:
Placed my order today! Went for the green stitching to match my bike.
Got a quick email with estimated times. Looks like I'll get it sometime mid/late August). A little longer than I hoped, but I'm willing to wait if it means I get a good product. Obviously I'll post photos as soon as I get it.
Tillerjock 08-11-2010, 02:21 PM That's one reason why I bought the versys to go with my cruiser...
lifesAnOcean 08-11-2010, 03:45 PM How are the Pro Pad inserts working out? Do people like them? Do people put them in the both the rider and pillion?
macrylinda 08-16-2010, 04:58 AM Thanks guys! It's always nice to have people like my work.
Bscott, that would be my stomping grounds. Nothing like a small town as you would know being from Desoto.
I added a page on my website for the Versys seat. If I can pick up a used stock seat I will add the seat to my seat core program.
I emailed them last night with questions and got a prompt response with a ton of info. These guys seem to be right on as far as customer service go, even asked me to call in to discuss any modification I was requesting to make sure it would work out. Baldwin very well may become the Corbin killer.
Loren at Baldwin provided excellent service. I got my tall gel vinyl seat on time as ordered. No drama, excuses or delays. Highly recommended vendor.
sethendal 09-07-2010, 04:08 PM I came across your site while searching for custom seats that add height and thought I'd follow suit of other people on this thread and get some feedback on what would be recommended for someone of my size as I own a 2008 Versys.
Do your legs feel cramped while riding the bike? Yes. I'm often shifting in my seat and stretching my legs out while riding.
Have you added lower foot pegs? No. Not as of yet. Worried about clearance but am open to it.
How is your reach to the bars? Good, however I tend to lean back some to make it so I'm not on top of the tank.
Do you feel in a relaxed position? Not as relaxed as I feel I could be. I feel very crowded against the tank.
Do you find yourself sitting back on the pillion often to stretch out? Yes, I often will sit back on the pillion to stretch when stopped.
Do you ride with a passenger at times? Very, very rarely.
Other Info:
- 6'8" 235 lbs
- 38-40" inseam
- I've seen mentioned leveling the seat out as one large seat (removing the passenger separation) and am fine with this if realistic.
Thanks!
that's tall. I'm 6'3" and 34" inseam. I benefited from the lower pegs and a Baldwin tall gel seat. Various other homemade mods are in threads on this site.
Trophyrider 09-08-2010, 06:00 AM I wanted to share one of my latest custom saddle projects. A local guy with a Kawasaki 650 Versys (what a great bike) came and saw me last week with Sciatic nerve pain in his left leg and butt cheek. The stock seat was killing him. I did a Pro Pad gel insert and used orthopedic memory foam replacing a good amount of the stock foam and giving the seat a better contour for him. Then stitched up a new custom cover. It turned out looking real sharp IMHO.
Here are photos of the seat
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3987&stc=1&d=1250978425
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3988&stc=1&d=1250978425
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http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3990&stc=1&d=1250978425
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3991&stc=1&d=1250978425
Loren
Baldwin Motorbike Saddles
www.MotorbikeSaddles.com
I had a Corbin on my Trophy, the one and only Corbin I will buy. Now looking for a new seat for my Versys, and this looks like the best option so far. Can anything be done in the passenger area of the seat? My pillon complains of Monkey butt after 30 minutes or so.
I can deal with the stock seat, but know vast improvements can be made. Let me know if any improvements can be made in the passenger seating area.
weljo2001 09-08-2010, 06:15 AM I had a Corbin on my Trophy, the one and only Corbin I will buy. Now looking for a new seat for my Versys, and this looks like the best option so far. Can anything be done in the passenger area of the seat? My pillon complains of Monkey butt after 30 minutes or so.
I can deal with the stock seat, but know vast improvements can be made. Let me know if any improvements can be made in the passenger seating area.
If your looking at the Baldwin just tell Loren what you want done to the seat.
The stock seat has a tendency to push you forward and causes your crotch to go to sleep on long rides.
Maybe that's why I don't notice the problem you other riders are talking about. My crotch has been asleep for the last 15 years!! :o
nitewl 09-29-2010, 04:15 AM I have a new Baldwin at 2" taller and very firm. It really changes bike. Nice workmanship but I would change a couple things about how I ordered it. Real comfy so far. Bike seems skinnier cause knees hit tank where their supposed to. Stock windsheild height would be useless. Stock handle bar height seems ok now but needs to go foward. The hump at rider/passenger junction can be slid over a bit now- which is nice. With stock seat I felt behind the lumpy tank. With tall seat the tank kinda disappears like a dirt bike. Loren is a great guy to deal with and sent me all kinds of material samples. Ya gotta think about what you REALLY want though-it is custom and ain't no turning back. my $.02
I got a tall Baldwin, including a rework of the passenger pillion. It's my second seat from him. The workmanship and design were great, but it didn't work well for my wife (No fault of Loren.). He actually saw the seat for sale on this site and offered to help out, as best he could. I have since sent the seat back to him. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is customer service. I was very pleased and impressed, to say the least.
BTW, this was an odd occasion, due to physical/medical issues w/my wife. I'm certainly not saying this is Baldwin's policy, and I'm far from trying to cause him trouble in the future. On the contrary, I didn't contact him in the first place because a custom seat is just that: custom. I wasn't going to bother him w/something that wasn't his error/fault/responsibility. He went the extra mile for an exceptional circumstance.
Anyway, I hope that all came out right. Great product and a great guy w/which to deal. Many thanks.
JimJim 10-06-2010, 09:11 AM :thumb::thumb::thumb:
I really like my Baldwin.
jsherm01 05-05-2011, 03:15 PM Well I'll be...
Here I am in Prairie Village, Kansas and never heard of Baldwin Motorbike Saddles.
I've never hated my stock seat like some but I have thrown a nice thick sheepskin on for long days.
How's the drive-in service!
oldkawboy 05-05-2011, 03:42 PM Loren's saddle got some coverage in the June issue of Motorcyclist. They done a long term test on the Versys and changed a couple things, one being the stock seat to a Baldwin. The author (like many others) had good things to say about it.
Dan
Pismocycleguy 05-05-2011, 05:57 PM Loren at Baldwin Motorbike Saddles is a nice guy to work with!:clap:
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