I got my bike on March 3rd and I was busy customizing it to my liking. Because I'm only 30.5" (77.5 cm) inseam I started with designing and making a lowering kit. Being mechanical engineer and an owner of a machine shop, I thought it would be more fun making a lowering kit than buying a $400.00 gel seat.
At this point, I can say that it was sheer joy , and now I know that I will be building more custom parts in the future. I put a lot of effort into making it right. It is as mechanically streamlined as can be. The main component is made out of clear anodized 6061-T6 aircraft aluminum, so it’s resistant to corrosion and stronger than a casted gull-wing of the rear suspension of the bike. My kit lowers the seat to 31.25” (79.4 cm), which is 1.85” (47 mm) lower than the original seat height. The kit also addresses the issue of the rough rear suspension by making it a tad softer.
If you would like more info you can see my post here:
http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45&topic=3132.0
You will need to register to look at the photos.

Good job !!!! It looks great.

Ok Speedy, Don't let all the members on this site guess what other neat stuff you can do for them.

Speedy also designed a mean Fat foot in Silver or anodized black as well as some mirror extenders. All is stuff is very well design and built and at a very competitive price

Here are some pictures of Speedy's stuff:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll313/actar911/fatfootblack.png
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll313/actar911/mirrorextender.png
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll313/actar911/loweringkit1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll313/actar911/loweringkit2.png

Everybody is awaiting to see what other neat stuff he as designed.

Nice work! I'd love to see prices on the foot & mirror extenders...


Oh, & welcome aboard Speedy!

Hi actar911,
You blew my cover. I guess there is no place to hide. :D
As to prices here they are [All mounting hardware requeired is included]:

Lowering Kit for Kawasaki Versys (clear anodized) US$127.00

Flatfoot for Lowering Kit (black anodized) US$46.00

Custom Foot Peg for Lowering Kit US$26.00


Standard Flatfoot for Kawasaki Versys (black anodized) US$46.00

Mirror Extenders (pair) US$34.00


Take care,
Les

Nice work Speedy how about a radiator cover

Speedy,

I still have limited experience on bikes and was wondering how lowering would affect the ride.

Center of gravity ( assume would lower - and make it better ).

Any appreciable change to wheelbase - would it be a tad longer - therefore more stable, maybe a bit less responsive?
Could one even tell a difference?

I would also assume my warranty coverage would go away - Hopefully not -
I have a 32" inseam and am on the balls of my feet when stopped. A couple of
inches lower would be about right I think, and I definitely like the price compared to the
lower seat.

Thanks for any input.

Here you go Pharma:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0210_lower/index.html

Waxrash,

Thanks for the link.

While a lot was over my head, I understood enough to think that since I can get both feet on the ground - just not flat footed- I'd better leave well enough alone.

I'll study up some more. Maybe check out some other goodies.

Thanks again.

I've posted on the UK site and sent an IM and email. Looking for one of those pretty lowering links for the Versys. Funds are available immediately, help me keep from droppin my new ride... Thanks PJO

I just ordered my lowering kit from Speedy and can't wait to receive it.

Hi Guys,
I offer now Flatfoot for lowering kit. The price is US40.00 plush shipping.
To US is US$5.00, Canada is US$10.00 and Europe - worldwide is US$12.00.
IF you would like one please Paypal payment to lbpiehl@sbcglobal.net and I will send one your way next business day.

I love my black flatfoot Speedy thanks.

I Just installed Speedy's Lowering kit last night. I must say the quality of the piece is remarkable, and the installation was a breeze. Took me about 45 minutes or so to install the kit and about 10 minutes to lower the front forks. WOW:) it's sure nice to be able to touch at least one foot flat on the ground. I will be taken it to work tomorrow, so i'll report on how it handles later.

Below are some pictures of how I used 2 floor jacks to lift up the rear for installation. Worked GREAT! very sturdy. Just lift high enough to get the tire off the ground, and go to work.:thumb:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/KIT-INSTALLED.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/REAR-AFTER.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/RIDERS-SIDE-JACK.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/RIGHT-JACK.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/BIG-JACK.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/BIKE-ON-JACK.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/CLOSE-BIG.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/CLOSEUP-RIGHT.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/SEANCLAY_2006/FRONT-AFTER.jpg

Kawaclay,

thanks for the pics.

I received my kit from speedy last week but hadn't figured a safe way to
lift the bike. I think I can handle it the way you showed. :thumb:

I installed my GPS mount....excellent! I'll post pics later. Camera battery is dead.

Installed my lowered flatfoot today and it fit perfectly. Thanks Speedy.

Installed my lowering kit last night and it's great.:thumb::thumb:

Installation was a breeze - explicit instructions emailed ahead of time made it easy.

My 32" inseam now is flat footed w/ room to spare.

Now I've just got to save up for a GPS & order the mount.

Installed my lowering kit yesterday and put 80 miles on it this morning amongst the semi-twisties. The wonderfully tight steering I gained by lowering the front seems negated, but otherwise I sense little overall change to the bike's behavior. I'll take that for being able to get one foot flat on the ground at stops.

Big props to "Speedy" for creating a very well-designed kit with excellent directions!

What does installing the lowering kit do to the warranty? Will Kawi cancel the warranty?

I don't see why it should do anything to the warranty because installing the lowering kit itself does not make any permanent changes to the bike. It can be installed and later taken off at any time.

Speedy,

Installed your Lowering Kit a couple weeks ago... Great! Now I'm trying to put on a Hugger that I just purchased. I laid it on to see how it would fit, and it looks like I need to either trim around the new shock mount or put it under it. Have you dealt with this yet, or know somebody how has installed a hugger with your kit?

Thanks,
Clay

Hi Clay,

Tringfellow from the UK forum has installed the hugger on the bike with my lowering kit.
You can check out his post (Tringfellow's 3rd post on the page) at: http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45&topic=3132.15 and his photos at: http://www.photobox.co.uk/my/album?album_id=47599427.
I hope that helps,
Speedy

OK to lower the front, reference the post below for the front fork assembly.

Here's a pic of the manual with the front fork assembly for reference.

Here's how I did it, proceed at your own risk.

Loosen the two bolts labeled number 3 on both sides of the front forks.

Loosen ONE side number 4 bolt and slip the fork up (I put mine right at the edge of where the tapered portion starts.) Tighten that side number 4 and go to the other side and repeat. Then tighten the number 3 bolts on both sides. Alternate tightening the bolts on each side to achieve an even clamping force.

#3 bolts get tightened to 21 ft-lb ( 29 N·m or 3.0 kgf·m for non-US people ), and the #4 bolts get tightened to 15 ft-lb ( 20 N·m or 2.0 kgf·m )

http://www.********.com/Versys/front_forks.jpg

Here's another tip, you don't have to raise the rear of the bike up to install the lowering kit. :) If you don't have a proper lift, this makes it a bit safer IMHO.

What I did was remove the right side seat trellis and shock absorber bolts according to the instructions (with the bike still on the ground.) To get the shock absorber bolt out you will need to lift the rear seat/frame area upwards slightly to loosen it. Once the bolt is out, let the seat/frame down and allow the end of the shock absorber to lower into it's stock mount area. Now wedge something in between the rear tire and seat/frame that will take the pressure off the shock and allow for some working room. I used a plastic cat litter bucket. That will allow you to lift the shock out of the way, install the lowering bracket and hardware, and attach the shock to the bracket. Put the M6 Socket Cap Screw in the hole, and lift on the seat/frame to remove the item you wedged in, and slowly lower it and the bracket at the same time to line up the Socket Cap Screw.

Speedy,
I have been reading everyone’s comments on your lowering kit and I am one of the vertically challenged and looking to lower my Versys also. I read in the below post that you listed the lowering kit and kick stand end foot for $125 plus shipping. Are you still taking orders for the combination? And how would you prefer payment? I would like to order this combination if possible.


Hi actar911,
You blew my cover. I guess there is no place to hide. :D
As to prices here they are:

Lowering kit for Kawasaki Versys (clear anodized) and kick stand end foot (black anodized) US$125.00

Mirror extenders (2 pcs.) US$27.50

Flatfoot for Kawasaki Versys (black anodized) US$40.00

Shipping by USPS:

USA US$5.00
Canada US$10.00
Europe and the rest of the world US$12.00

Take care,
Les

Yes, I am still making the Lowering Kits.
I sent you a PM with the details on how to order one.
Speedy

Hey speedy...nice work. I'm very much thinking of ordering this mod. However I have a ? about adjusting the front. It would be easier for me if I had the measurement of how much of the fork tube sticks up, above the top triple clamp. Actually, I'd really like to know what the stock would be. From the factory, mine is about 10 mm above top triple clamp.

New Versys owner here,

Any chance someone around 5' 6'' could take a picture of their foot placement after the Speedy rear drop kit? I'd like to see how much foot is on the ground. Thanks.

Hello Speedy,

I know you are pretty busy, but seems like several riders are interested in lowering the pegs also. I modified mine soon after the purchase, but have no wish to mass produce them. I do like them and have been using them ever since the mod several months ago.

I have also heard the Buell XB12X might be another option.

Hi guys,

Yeap, they are on my to-do-list in the nearest future.
I will keep you posted.
Thanks for your suggestion :thumb:,
Speedy

I like your work! How do I get the lowering kit? If the bike is lowered, won't it need a shorter kickstand? What distance do the fork tubes need to be raised to keep the same overall bike stance? Thanks, Angus.

I'd really like to have your lowering kit Speedy but I can't find out how to order it. Help! I have a 28" inseam and am on tippy-toe. Please send me the info on how to order.

Thanks
Don Stout

Hi guys,

I sent you PMs on how to order the lowering kits from me.
Thanks,
Speedy

Money sent. Waiting on kit. Kits look great. Can't wait to do a reveiw for the other forum I visit.

Speedy,
Just put you your lowering kit on last night and all I can say is wow..it drops the bike down to where i feel comfortable holding it when I stop now. I also lowered the front forks 1/2 inch and the bike rides great. I took some before and after pictures of me holding the bike. I am 5'7 tall and you can see the difference in my stance.

Hi Scott,

I'm glad that the lowering kit is working out for you well. You can lower the front suspension (front forks) even lower by another 3/8'. But if you are happy with what you've got, that's great.
Thanks for posting the before and after photos. That was a great idea! I've never thought about it myself.

Speedy

Nice work Speedy how about a radiator cover

I second that.

Speedy,

I hope you've still got some Flat-Foots & mirrors extenders... as I just sent you $$$ via PayPal for them. :D

Thanks,
Jim

Hi Jim,

Yes, I do.
Thanks for your PayPal payment.
Will ship on Monday,
Speedy

Thank you so much sir!!!! :D

Take care,
Jim

I'd love to see a rad. cover, as well. And a full-coverage, but light, skid plate. A bit ambitious, perhaps?

Hi Jim,

Yes, I do.
Thanks for your PayPal payment.
Will ship on Monday,
Speedy

I'm assuming you are shipping mine on Monday also? I'm riding to Colorado in about a week and would sure love to have them.

Thanks
Don Stout

Hi guys,

Here is the update.
The new batch of lowering kits and flatfoot for lowering kits will be ready for shipment by Monday, August 25th, as promised. I will do my best to ship earlier, but it all depends on how fast the anodizers can finish.
Currently in stock: GPS Mount, Mirror Extenders, and Standard Flatfoot.
Next item in pipeline to be released soon: lowering foot pegs.
I'm taking in all your suggestions for new parts and will try to work them out.

Many thanks,
Speedy

I'd love to see a rad. cover, as well. And a full-coverage, but light, skid plate. A bit ambitious, perhaps?

Agreed on both of these. I'd take both if Speedy can facilitate production.

Also would like the lowering footpeg mounts (or pegs, however it's done.)

Thanks a bunch for engineering Versys goodies Speedy! :D

Take care,
Jim

Speedy, How about a windshield raising kit, ala Lanesplitter's idea?

http://forums.kawasakiversys.com/showthread.php?t=1144

I'd be interesting in raising my stock windshield a couple of inches.

Hey Speedy. I feel like a kid on Christmas morning waiting on that lowering kit. Your GPS mount was Great. Easy to install.

Les (Speedy G,)

Took delivery of my mirror extenders & BigFoot yesterday. Phenomenal craftsmanship my friend. Thank you so much!

Put me in line for a set of foot peg lowering blocks, radiator cover & skidplate if these ever come to fruition. :D

I'll get loads of high resolution pics of the bike posted on my website once I've got all my new incoming goodies installed. You're more than welcome to use any / all you like for advertising your wares.

Thanks again,
Jim

Now that some of you have had some time with the lowering kit installed and forks raised in the triple clamps, can you give some opinions on how the handling of the bike has changed, if any. Are you still able to use the full range of suspension? I dont need to lower the bike for standing at stop lights, since I am 6'-1" tall, but if lowering it improves handling, I would be interested in doing so. Any problems with grounding out pegs or toes with the lowered bike? Does Speedy's kit soften or stiffen the rear suspension?

Look forward to hearing opinions

Hi guys,

Here is the update.
The new batch of lowering kits and flatfoot for lowering kits will be ready for shipment by Monday, August 25th, as promised. I will do my best to ship earlier, but it all depends on how fast the anodizers can finish.
Currently in stock: GPS Mount, Mirror Extenders, and Standard Flatfoot.
Next item in pipeline to be released soon: lowering foot pegs.
I'm taking in all your suggestions for new parts and will try to work them out.

Many thanks,
Speedy

Where can I see a picture of the GPS mount?

http://www.versys.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3308.0;attach=2125



Comes in Black. Looks fantastic. Great Quality.

Now that some of you have had some time with the lowering kit installed and forks raised in the triple clamps, can you give some opinions on how the handling of the bike has changed, if any. Are you still able to use the full range of suspension? I dont need to lower the bike for standing at stop lights, since I am 6'-1" tall, but if lowering it improves handling, I would be interested in doing so. Any problems with grounding out pegs or toes with the lowered bike? Does Speedy's kit soften or stiffen the rear suspension?

Look forward to hearing opinions


I lowered mine for my wife. She loves it, and it does great. The bike handles notably more nimbly, but you do lose ground clearance. As long as you're staying at a moderate, fun pace, it is very nimble and quick w/the lower c.o.g. If you start to push it, you'll notice the lost ground clearance. My wife doesn't do such things, so all is well. I have other bikes to push. For a public road bike, it does great!

I lowered mine for my wife. She loves it, and it does great. The bike handles notably more nimbly, but you do lose ground clearance. As long as you're staying at a moderate, fun pace, it is very nimble and quick w/the lower c.o.g. If you start to push it, you'll notice the lost ground clearance. My wife doesn't do such things, so all is well. I have other bikes to push. For a public road bike, it does great!

I have loosened the sag already on my V and that lowered it about an inch, and purchased the lower gel seat...still not enough to be off tippy toes. Now, I have ordered Speedy's lowering kit. Would you suggest I will be able to leave both the loosened spring and lowering kit so I will have more than a 2.5" drop in height and still not have to worry about clearance? I do ride the twisties on the Blue Ridge Parkway In VA, NC at a pretty good clip, but don't do anything close to racing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

You have to get fairly aggressive to have a problem. But, after the front and rear drop, we run my wife's on firmer suspension settings, so you will have issues earlier, if you're running them soft. I suspect you'll be ok, but I don't really know how your riding pace/style goes.

Good luck.

You have to get fairly aggressive to have a problem. But, after the front and rear drop, we run my wife's on firmer suspension settings, so you will have issues earlier, if you're running them soft. I suspect you'll be ok, but I don't really know how your riding pace/style goes.

Good luck.

Thanks; appreciate the assistance. :)

Before and after lowering kit installation.

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1304

There is a small problem installing the lowering kit if you have a hugger.
Check it out.

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1303

Thanks; appreciate the assistance. :)


You're welcome. I hope it goes great. I think you'll love it.

Lowering kit came in last night. Already on. Perfect. I was worried it would be too low but it fit me perfect. raised the spring to 4 th level. works perfect

Glad you like it.
Thanks for your feedback,
Speedy

Speedy,

Are you still making this lowering kits?
If yes how can I purchase one from you and have it shipped to Canada

Fernando

Hi guys,

Yes, I am still making the lowering kits and I have them in stock.

Now, I have two models of the Lowering Kit for sale:
Standard Lowering Kit and the WR (retaining wire ready) Lowering Kit.
The price for the Standard or the WR Lowering Kit is the same, which is $125.00.

Shipping to U.S. and Canada is $10.00
To order, please send me a PM or email me at orders@motowerk.com

The ABS-ready model of Versys has the brake line wire retainer mounted in a different position than the non-ABS-ready model of Versys. The ABS-ready models of Versys are generally available in Europe.


The easiest way to tell which Lowering Kit is appropriate for which bike is to look for the wire retainer on the side of the swing arm. If you can see the wire retainer as in the below photo, then you will need the WR Lowering Kit.

If you don't, then you can order the Standard Model.

I’m working on designing the lowering pegs.

Please let me know if you have any questions,

Speedy

Photos in order from left to right:
Standard Lowering Kit-Main Body,
Standard Lowering Kit,
Wire Retainer on the side of the swing arm on the ABS-ready bike,
WR Lowering Kit-Main Body,
WR Lowering Kit

Hey Speedy,

Just wanted to add my voice to all the ones already thanking you for making a great product.

I just installed my flat foot today. I don't have a height issue but hated watching the bike supported by a thin stand.

Now there is no more dragging of the stand as the bike settles into place. It has a secure footing.

Thanks!

Hi Speedy,

Just received your package today, the lowering kit is fantastic.
I no longer need to wear my custom made 3" sole boots.
I had lowered my forks in antecipation. The assembling of the lowering kit and the flatfooot was easy and fast great product and great customer service, thank you Speedy.

Fernando

Hello Speedy,

Looking at getting the SO a F650GS and it appears to be the same deal as the lowering kit for the Versys, might need a link at the bottom of the shock mount.

We have not actually sat on the lower suspension with low seat yet, so I will let you know. Meanwhile if you get a chance to take a look at one, might be a good idea. Both the 800 and 650 swingarm are the same it appears.

Who knows, your link for the Versys might fit it, the F650GS is very similiar.

I was wondering if lowering the rear is enough to take the forward pitch out of the seat? I don't need it to adjust the height but I wouldn't mind the seat leveling out a bit.

Ed

Yes, it is.

Speedy

That is good news!:clap:

Ed

Hi guys,

My website is up and running now, so you can purchase my mods directly at
www.motowerk.com

Thanks,
Speedy

Hey Speedy, Just ordered a couple foots for our ZRX's. Nice website. Easy to use. Still waiting on the foot peg lowering blocks.

How much did you cut off the side stand to install the foot?

Hi,

Nothing. To install my Standard Flatfoot, you don't cut off the side stand at all.
This Flatfoot can be put on and taken off at any time.
For more information, please go to my website at www.motowerk.com and look under Standard Flatfoot. If you are asking about the Flatfoot for the Lowering Kit, you can find the detailed info about it on my website as well.

Thanks,
Speedy

Another satisfied customer of Speedy's here. I installed the lowering kit and the flat foot. Products were excellent and instructions were exact. The entire process took probably 90 minutes including cutting off the kick stand.

Well Speedy, I bit the bullet and ordered the WR version of the lowering kit & lowered flatfoot. I guess I can sell my existing flatfoot to offset the costs. :D

I use an Air Hawk seat pad with the stock seat, and it's just too darn high. I'm 5'10" with a 31" inseam. I've held off on the lowering because I really didn't want to loose ground clearance but see no way to feel comfortable without "bringing her down a bit."

I ordered the WR version because of my rear hugger. Was this a wise choice, or should you send me a standard version and cut my hugger like all others have done? I've got the Ermax hugger...

Thanks brother,
Jim

All goodies installed this afternoon (hey, I can't pass a 63 deg F day in mid November here in Ohio!) :D

WR series works perfect with the Ermax hugger (slight hugger trimming.) I'll have pics posted on my website & here in this thread as soon weather permits (might be a while!) :(

Thanks Les!!!!

Take care,
Jim

Is the purpose of the lowering kit to improve handling or to lower seat hieght. Do you need to drop the front end on the fork tubes to even things out? When used in combo with the footpeg lowering kit, is there any issue with grounding out the pegs in corners? I am going to purchase a Versys when the 2009 comes out in green, and am putting together a list of stuff to change out including the full Arrow pipe system, PCIII and rear fender eliminator. Might as well do it at the start and save the stock parts in pristine condition. I am 6'-1" with 34" inseam, so I dont think I will need to lower to touch the ground with both feet.

With your height there is no need to waste your money on lowering. Spend your money on something else instead. The reason for lowering is to get flat footed.

Speedy,
Many thanks for the fast shipment of my Versys parts, they arrived today. You work is outstanding.
I have a Jet mill and lathe and I was going to try to make these parts myself, but the set up time exceeds my available time. Lowering Foot Pegs Blocks, Lowering Kits, Flatfoot for Lowering Kit, GPS Mount & Mirror Extenders.

I cannot wait for this weekend to put the parts on my bike and take it out for a ride. The forecast is for 50 and clear here in Montana over the Thanksgiving weekend.

I thank you for the Thanksgiving card.
Have a grand holiday.

Chuck Bonnett
CDBonnett@q.com

Hi.

Today I have done to Speedy the order of his Lowering Kit for my Versys 2008 ABS, by his web.

I must say, that his treat it’s very good, correct and quickly (of course the people of his trade Moto Werk too):thumb:

I have decided to buy him the Lowering Kit, because a saw that it seem very good manufactured, with a very high quality and for the opinion of the members of this forum about it, that had put it in his bikes.

Well I’m waiting to put the Lowering Kit soon,to show it to my friends and to show it, in the Versys forum that there are in Spain.:yeahsmile:

The next it’s especially for Speedy:

Here in Spain the piece that you have invented (Lowering Kit) in Spanish (I’m not sure if in the rest of the speakers Spanish Countries too) it’s called BIELETA and many people that have a Versys and want to low the height of his Versys found in Google or others, by the name of this piece in Spanish, bieleta and many people don’t find nothing.

The bieleta in Spanish is the piece that unite the bumper (I think that it’s the name) with the (I’m not sure the name in English) tip-up lorry?:topsecret:

Regards from Spain.:cheers:

However sorry with my English.

I want to ride with my Versys by USA.:(

Sorry for duplicate my message (I put the same in other thread) but I think that it must to be in this.:o

Regards.

Hi guys.

I’ve received today the order from Speedy (Moto Werk)

It has been very quickly, only 8 work days here in Spain, from USA to here.:clap:

All it’s perfect and very well good make.

The Lowering Kit (Bieleta) it’s precious, I’m thinking to put it on my desk to be seeing it during all the day and not to install in the Versys. I don’t know.:confused:

I’m going to install it next Saturday if it is possible, and when I did it, I up some pictures.:yeahsmile:

Too, I ordered to Speedy a Custom Foot Peg (pie para patilla) and an Extender Mirror Kit (extensores de retrovisor) all it has a very, very good finished it’s perfect.

I’ve had installed yet the Mirror Extender Kit yet and it’s very easy to install, in 5 minutes you do it.

I’m waiting the Saturday.

Of course, the pay it’s very easy and quickly.

Thank you Speedy (Moto Werk):thumb:

Hi Javi,

Glad you received it so fast and that you like the quality of my parts.
Thanks,
Speedy

The Lowering Kit, GPS Mount, and Kickstand Foot are really working out Great....THANKS. The Bike even feels more planted in twisties since being lowered. 39 years of Bikes, and the quality is as good as anything I've purchased...well worth the money.....:thumb:

I ordered the mirror extenders and footpeg lowering mounts and they are very nicely made. I won't be installing them until the weather breaks (it got down to -12F last night). A question about the lowering kit: does it affect the suspension travel or just reduce the ride height? Is it difficult to lower the forks to level the bike?

A simple tip on lowering the front forks......go under the lower triple clamp, measure down the fork legs how much you want to drop the front, mark them, then put an automotive hose clamp tightly around each leg at that point (wrap tape first to protect from scratches). Put a block under the kickstand to level the bike, then loosen the triple clamp bolts. The weight of the bike will slide the trees down to the clamps. Re-tighten the bolts and remove the clamps and tape........:thumb:

The lowering kit on my bike, and lowering the front, actually made the bike feel more planted in twisties, and gave it a little quicker turn-in.....:thumb:

Hi fastgrandpa,

You can find more detailed instructions for lowering front forks here:
http://motowerk.com/Documents/Web%20Instructions%20for%20Lowering%20Front%20Susp ension.pdf
although skuuter did a good job explaining it already. Thanks skuuter:thumb:

If comes to your other question, every lowering kit by nature of its design reduces suspension travel somewhat, however, the effect on Versys is very small because when they designed it they allowed for ample travel anyway.

Thanks,
Speedy

A simple tip on lowering the front forks......go under the lower triple clamp, measure down the fork legs how much you want to drop the front, mark them, then put an automotive hose clamp tightly around each leg at that point (wrap tape first to protect from scratches). Put a block under the kickstand to level the bike, then loosen the triple clamp bolts. The weight of the bike will slide the trees down to the clamps. Re-tighten the bolts and remove the clamps and tape........:thumb:

The lowering kit on my bike, and lowering the front, actually made the bike feel more planted in twisties, and gave it a little quicker turn-in.....:thumb:

skuter thanks....could u give us your measurment...seems like u have it just right..i have my lowering blocks & foot peg blocks on order from speedy also.......thanks again:thumb:

skuter thanks....could u give us your measurment...seems like u have it just right..i have my lowering blocks & foot peg blocks on order from speedy also.......thanks again:thumb:

I left 1/8" of "smooth" surface sticking below the lower tree. Like Speedy recommends, not wise to go below the smooth area, so You get a full clamping surface.......:thumb:

Hi guys.

A promise is a promise.

Here are the pictures of the installing Lowerin Kit, yesterday afternoon. I did it with the help of a very good friend, who has a Versys 2007 too. Between the two, we did it very quickly, install the Lowering kit, low the front and cut and install the Foot Peg, about 45 minutes.

You can see the difference between the two bikes, with and without Lowering Kit.

Too we take measurement of distances of axle and height (in mm).

You must to have in count that I low the seat (Made by me, I up some pictures in other Thread)

I hope you like the results.

Intallation

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9972/88196387li8.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2946/64846227lr2.jpg

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You can see the diference of higtht between the two bikes

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2644/36257122ef1.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/265/73932423oe3.jpg

770 mm = 30.3149 in 840 mm the original - 770 mm now = 70 mm less = 2.75590 in (47 mm Lowering Kit + 23 mm low seat)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2808/pict0041ol2.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7411/60435806dn1.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7825/53291392fc7.jpg

I love my Versys, it's beautiful.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4074/dscn0002rg5.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5733/dscn0020wu8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1097/conmatreiculaborradazo9.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7665/pict0027yy2.jpg

Details of the Lowering Kit:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7347/dscn0009bc7.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4537/dscn0008ls5.jpg

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5247/dscn0010je5.jpg

To be continued:

Second part:

The Extender Mirrors Moto Werk.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/558/dscn0014io5.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/431/dscn0013vb5.jpg

In this pictures I was seat down in the Versys' seat.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8092/pict0002md7.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2415/pict0003em7.jpg

930 mm = 36.6141 in

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3297/pict0049fr8.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2905/pict0048zx0.jpg

Foot Peg Moto Werk

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7799/pict0008tz3.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6641/pict0053ux7.jpg

+- 1425 mm = 56.1023 in I think that the real distance is a few less, because the tape measure did a few of curve by the protectives plastics.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5135/pict0036fs3.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7919/pict0032nd5.jpg

The picture it's very bad, but I sure you that it mark 33,3 mm = 1.311 in

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4493/pict0044hp7.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/448/pict0046ft0.jpg

The end.

:cool:

skuter thanks....could u give us your measurment...seems like u have it just right..i have my lowering blocks & foot peg blocks on order from speedy also.......thanks again:thumb:

update......just got it !!.....now gotta get to work !!.......thanks speedy for such fast shipping....and quality parts !!!....u made ol kudzoo a happy man !!:thumb::thumb::thumb:

update......just got it !!.....now gotta get to work !!.......thanks speedy for such fast shipping....and quality parts !!!....u made ol kudzoo a happy man !!:thumb::thumb::thumb:


CONGRATS....You'll be impressed..........:thumb:

Today I installed the Motowerks lowering kit, the peg lowering blocks, the mirror extenders, and kickstand adaptor. Delivery took 8 days to Canada. Very clear instructions. I also lowered the front forks per the instructions on their web site. Everything was easy to do. Thanks to Speedy for his great work!

Now if they could make some Versys handle bar risers......

Has any one tried lowering just the rear? I was wondering if lowering only the rear might decrease the forward slide from the seat and give a bit more wind protection from the potato chip windshield with out affecting handling too much.

Not a wise idea peebles, as you'll throw the OEM geometry off. Would definitely "slow" the steering response of the bike down quite a bit. I rode mine around the block a few times with just the rear lowered, and didn't like the response feel much.

Forgot to post up some PORN!! :D

http://images45.fotki.com/v1423/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0030-vi.jpg


http://images43.fotki.com/v1382/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0033-vi.jpg


http://images43.fotki.com/v1389/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0036-vi.jpg


http://images47.fotki.com/v1400/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0037-vi.jpg

http://images42.fotki.com/v1466/photos/2/17642/7305013/IMG_0170-vi.jpg


http://images44.fotki.com/v1418/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0038-vi.jpg


http://images46.fotki.com/v1396/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0046-vi.jpg


http://images43.fotki.com/v1384/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0047-vi.jpg

http://images44.fotki.com/v1406/photos/1/17642/6881794/IMG_0044-vi.jpg

Yep. Ya' gota' lower the Front also to retain the Bike's Geometry. My Versys does handle better lowered. The lower center of gravity gave it a much more planted feel, and quicker turn-in to boot.....:thumb:

MackDaddy: You take such good porn :) So crisp and clear!

Speedy, I am ordering your lowering kit today, hopefully it all works out well.

Also, you have a typo on your site. The page for the lowered flatfoot has luck instead of lack. Just thought you should know.

Hey MackDaddy,
what's with that bell? Does it go off when leaned over too far :)



SZRimaging, not preaching, but PMs are a useful contact method too ...

Hey MackDaddy,
what's with that bell? Does it go off when leaned over too far :)



SZRimaging, not preaching, but PMs are a useful contact method too ...

http://www.crazyeddie.org/harley/bell.htm

I am a new rider at 44 and bought my Versys after much research. Love the bike, but I am only 5'5 and shrinking. My husband installed the new lowering kit last week with great ease and was quite impressed with the workmanship and quality of the part. I went for my first ride yesterday and I cannot tell you the confidence I immediately felt after throwing my leg over. Felt like I had been riding it for years!

Kudos to your engineering mind!!

D Cook
Deer Park, WA

Just ordered the kit!

Got the kit today. Pumped to install it this weekend.

Speedy if you see this, can you tell us if or what your brain storming next for the versys?

Hi guys,

Yeah, I'm still alive and kicking. Sorry for not keeping up with all the threads, but between working and riding my V I have very little time left.
I have a few things on the back of my mind that I'm planning to make for myself and maybe some of you will like them.

Someone on UK forum asked me to make a set of rear pegs for a child and you can see them here: http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45&topic=5655.0

I'm thinking of making a frame for a pair of bags that I will be using for touring. I bought the bags at Harbor Freight for $28 each. I think that this is the cheapest you can go. They are black and red, so they match my bike pretty well. I will let you know how all this will work out.

I am also thinking of making highway pegs and adjustable brackets for windscreen similar to Algard. I might throw one or two surprises in between.

Keep the rubber down,
Speedy

I am also thinking of making highway pegs and adjustable brackets for windscreen similar to Algard. I might throw one or two surprises in between.


If you make it, They will buy it!

I know I would!

What is the ground clearance after installing the lowering kit? The original is 180 mm (7').

That's no brainer...
The lowering kit lowers the seat by 1.85", so the clearance would be 1.85" (47 mm) less.

As universally reported, my wife's lowering kit arrived promptly and installed easily! She's much happier now, as she's able to flat-foot the bike at a stop! Thank you, Speedy!

And yes, the lowering bracket is so beautiful, I just wanted to keep it on my desk and look at it (I did, actually!)

Two questions:

1. Speedy, why is the lower bolt you supply so long?

and

2. After dropping the rear 1.85" and dropping the forks to the bottom of the smooth surface (1" - 1 1/4" maybe?) the bike has an ever-so-slight "non-neutral" handling.

I test rode the bike after installing the kit and dropping the forks. Going straight, there's no pull at all. Perfect. But in steady cornering (constant speed and radius) both directions, the bike required pressure on the inside grip to maintain constant lean angle.

I then came home and bumped the rear spring preload to the middle of the range (it was at the lowest setting before installing the kit). Upon the next ride, the effect was minimized but not eliminated.

Anyone have any suggestions?

The "problem" is not bad, and it's so slight, I didn't even mention it to my wife, who will probably never even notice.

I'm no great mechanic but I believe the offset of the spring angle decreases it's effective spring rate which requires you to ratchet up the preload. Also the front can only be safely lowered about 1 1/4" before the fork tube decreases circumference which changes the fork angle. I noticed these changes after installing the unit myself but the benefit of the lowered bike offsets the changes in my opinion. I would have preferred a little less lowering but overall very happy.

Hi guys,

First, I'd like to thank peebles for a pretty thorough explanation.

In regards to the question about the long bolt:
If a short bolt was used for installation of the kit, one of its sides would work on a thread instead of on a solid diameter, which mechanically would not be sound. You need to keep in mind that the bolt is working against the shear forces and in this type of situation a full diameter engagement is required.


Speedy

speedy...any news on new the products in the works?

I've just released the GPS Mount for the new Garmin zumo 660.
Still working on a few other mods. Will keep you posted.
Thanks,
Speedy

Wow, fast shipping!!!!

Guys, if your knees bother you on rides don't hesitate to order this kit. Bike feels completely different, and in a good way. I also ordered the mirror extenders. These things could save your life. A few weeks ago I was riding with my son on the back. A freeking tractor trailer blew a red light we were sitting at. The guy actually fit between us and the truck in the lane next to us who were waiting at the light. I figure he was going around 70, and missed us by inches. I never saw or heard the truck coming, all I felt was wind and gravel hitting my right arm. I'm thinking if I'd had the mirror extenders fitted at the time, I might have seen him coming and had a chance to move out of the way. I'm pretty sure these bad boys are going to save somebody sitting at a light, sooner or later. I know I'm sure glad I found Speedy's website.

Looks like the pics are gone,,,

Just wanted to toss out that I just got one of the lowering blocks. PREMIUM workmanship, and very prompt shipping.

I installed it, along with a Hyperpro lowering spring, and lowered the front shocks and brought the bike down around 3-1/2". These two mods work GREAT together. Even with 2 200 lb people on the bike, it still will only bounce down to within 1-1/2" of the fender.

Hi Speedy,

I am short :). But I love this machine. I do not wanna buy the F650 GS but I may have to. 31.25” (79.4 cm) may still be not flat-foot for me.

So here are my questions:

1) Can it be lowered more than 1.85” (47 mm)? Is there a way other than lowered gel seat?
2) Did you ever ship the lowering kit to Turkey? I would love to contact someone here and try the kit.

Thanks,

Can

Hi, just got 09 green versys and I'll be damned I have the same problem as everyone else here. verticle issues! So if I could get directions on how to order the lowering kit I would be very very pleased. (assuming it fits 09's).

Coming from a monster s4r and wow this bike beats it in comfort by miles.

Thanks speedy!

Going straight, there's no pull at all. Perfect. But in steady cornering (constant speed and radius) both directions, the bike required pressure on the inside grip to maintain constant lean angle.

I then came home and bumped the rear spring preload to the middle of the range (it was at the lowest setting before installing the kit). Upon the next ride, the effect was minimized but not eliminated.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Yeap I noticed the same thing and since the lowering kit and the Gel seat did not get the bike low enough for my wife I took it all off and put her back to stock. My wife needed about another 1/2 inch (she is 4'11") to be able to steady the bike with her right foot and put the kickstand down.

By the way that’s the true way to see if the bike is low enough for you. Flat footing should not be your goal. Your goal is to be able to do like I said, steady the bike with your right foot and put the kickstand down. If my 4'11" tall 110 lb wife can ride a bike with that criteria surely you MEN can. :D

Her F650GS and SV650S have a 29.5" seat height and that works out for her.

Hi guys,

You can purchase my lowering kit at my website at www.motowerk.com where you can find full product description and details with photos.
And yes, the kit is guaranteed to fit the 2009 Versys.
Thanks,
Speedy

Speedy, have you had anyone try it on the ER-6N yet? I may buy one for my wife for our anniversary.

The lowering kit for Versys will not fit the ER-6, however, I am working on the lowering kit designed specifically for the ER-6N. It should be available for purchase soon.
You can check my website from time to time under http://motowerk.com/ER6N.aspx

Thanks,
Speedy

Very cool, thanks for the update.

Hi, just got 09 green versys and I'll be damned I have the same problem as everyone else here. verticle issues! So if I could get directions on how to order the lowering kit I would be very very pleased. (assuming it fits 09's).

Coming from a monster s4r and wow this bike beats it in comfort by miles.

Thanks speedy!

It's as easy as clicking here:

http://motowerk.com/instructions.aspx
(http://motowerk.com/LoweringKit.aspx)

Thank you... will be ordering next pay check.

O and PS I lowered the front forks but (new to bikes) what does that do to handleing? Just more aggresive in the turns?

Hi all, just got a good deal on a lightly used Versys (3000 miles, 3 year warranty left). Love this thing, love it!

Anyway it came with a lowering kit installed, which sets it at a perfect height for my 5'10", but I'd love to get your opinions (particularly Speedy's).

The fellow I brought the bike from was a good guy, heavier than I, and had good mechanical skills, so I'm sure it's OK, but I can't seem to find any info or opinions on this particular one vs. tons of great feedback about Speedy's, and it would put my mind at rest if anyone else had taken a look at one. I'd guess that the bolt would be the most likely point of failure?

Link here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270447953714&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

Thanks guys (and gals), glad to be here.

Looks like it does the same job a Speedys (which I have, great bit of kit) although this kit is in 3 pieces whereas Speedys is a solid lump. As long as its not made from flimsy, soft metal and is properly installed/torqued etc you should be ok. If in any doubts get it checked by a proper engineer.

Ian

Thanks Ian, I like the idea of a solid lump rather than pieces. The guy I bought from was a service manager at a car dealership, and I'm sure he would know if it was worrisome. That said I may upgrade to Speedy's version in a while.

Cheers,

-Gabe

My wife is trading in her 08 650R on a Green 09 Versys. The bike will be ready Thursday aft.
I just ordered the lowering kit from speedy as well as sure foot and peg lowering blocks for both Versys.
400 klick round trip ....I hope it dosn't rain. :)

Hi Speedy,
I just got my lowering kit in the mail today (exciting) but there were no instructions, do you have an emailable version for me?
Thanks!
Lydia

You download them from his site.

thanks! off to get this installed....

Hi Speedy,
I just got my lowering kit in the mail today (exciting) but there were no instructions, do you have an emailable version for me?
Thanks!
Lydia



It's as easy as clicking here:

http://motowerk.com/instructions.aspx



:thumb:
(http://motowerk.com/LoweringKit.aspx)

Thanks guys!
Speedy

Hi gti20vturbo,

The lowering kit for ER-6N and the 2009 Ninja 650R is finally ready.
You can check it out here: http://motowerk.com/ER6loweringkit.aspx and here: http://motowerk.com/Ninja650rloweringkit.aspx

Thanks for waiting,
Speedy

Boy. A 32" inseam and still feels tall? Mine's less than that and a pair of steel toe Red Wing M/C boots with a nice thick sole seemed to provide an adequate "lowering" effect.

Just wanted to say that Speedy runs a great operation, and I look forward to doing business with him in the future. We ordered his more than reasonably priced kit, and we had it at our house in < 3 days. There were excellent instructions online, and he was very responsive to all my PM's. It's nice to know there are people/businesses out there that put customer service before their bottom line and manage to make a great product while doing so.

Thanks Speedy,

Very happy customer!

Just ordered flatfoot and extenders, can't wait, thanks Speedy!

Flatfoot for lowering kit and mirror extenders arrived yesterday. Thanks Speedy, that was ... speedy!

Can't find instructions for lowering kit flatfoot on your site, am I being dense?

Thanks again, can't wait to get these on the bike.

Can't find instructions for lowering kit flatfoot on your site, am I being dense?


It's in the lowering kit instructions (http://motowerk.com/Documents/Web_Kawasaki%20Versys%20Std%20%20Lowering%20Kit%20 Install%20Instructions_Rev%202.pdf). Look at the last page.

Ahah!! I was being dense :) Thanks a lot Gary!

Just got back from a ride with the mirror extenders on, WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Amazing that a couple of inches further out makes such a huge difference. Fantastic mod, and beautifully made, thanks Speedy!!

Glad you were able to find the instructions.

Speedy

Installed the lowering kit and mirror extenders today. Just perfect!

Thanks, Speedy.

Mine had the lowering kit when I bought it ( 225 miles, got it for $5,ooo) . Sorry to say this but it does not make the suspension softer because is moving the shock away from the swing arm( pivot point ), in order to soften the suspension you must take it closer to the pivot point. I would love to see you make a progressive linkage, like the ones used in the ducatis, or the new Z-1000. I know there is not much space but any linkage would be better than this.

Speedy, are you still making the flatfoot for lowered bikes? I'm thinking I might need one if I get one of those progressive springs that lowers the bike.

Hi potus2012,

Yes, I am still making the lowering kits and the flatfoot.
You can buy them from my website at: www.motowerk.com

Speedy

Hi Speedy,

Your site shows the lowering block for ABS model is out of stock. Any idea when will that be replenish? Looking to get that and the flat foot? Btw, is there a need to saw off the side stand once the bike is lowered?

Hi Scarab,

I should have it ready for shipment around Monday.
If comes to shortening the kickstand, it is all explained in the installation instructions on my website. I recommend it to keep the leaning angle the same.
Thanks,
Speedy

Thanks Speedy, got the flat foot and the foot peg lowering kit instead as I feel that I can live with the high of the bike. :D

Sweet :yeahsmile:

Speedy

High All,

I'm 6'1" (and 230 lbs) and can stand flatfooted on both feet while on my stock V, but don't like it's awkward handling at low speed. Would lowering my V by 1.85" improve low speed handling to make it turn more like a sport bike? Would I loose stability and comfort on the highway? How would my ride change with an occasional passenger at another 170 lbs (for 400lbs total)? How far can you lean at this point?

Thanks. -Mike

High All,

I'm 6'1" (and 230 lbs) and can stand flatfooted on both feet while on my stock V, but don't like it's awkward handling at low speed. Would lowering my V by 1.85" improve low speed handling to make it turn more like a sport bike? Would I loose stability and comfort on the highway? How would my ride change with an occasional passenger at another 170 lbs (for 400lbs total)? How far can you lean at this point?

Thanks. -Mike

Hey Mike,

I lowered the bike, then brought it back by installing a new to me sidestand etc, and then I lowered it again :)

I found that the bike is much more composed when lowered, and it turns in a tad quicker. However, I don't ride two up anymore, but when I did, we didn't reach 320lb combined and with the proper adjustment on the rear I still have a mark where the spring touched something (can't remember exactly what). But this was during some spirited riding with catching air a bit.

Leaning, I didn't find that I lost much, although in theory you do. By moving in the saddle I can pull away from friends on sportbikes, who in theory have as much experience if not more.

Speedy,

will the mirror extenders stop the vibrations in the mirrors???

Generally, these mirror extenders were not designed to reduce vibrations, but in some cases they did. This is due to the fact that for some reason the engines of the bike resonate at different frequencies.

You've also asked me if I can ship to Australia. Yes, I ship (international mail) all over the world with few exceptions of the countries to which the mail never seems to reach the recipient:devil: Australia is on my good-to-go list, so no worries mate.

Speedy

hi Speedy,

can you make a lowering link that would lower the bike a little less then your lowering link does now ?

i want to lower the bike, but want to get a better match with the front.

the front can't get lowered as far as what the back drops to with the lowering link.

thx,
dave

HEY SPEEDY,
I Just wanted to say thanks and give you a big thumbs up.
I'm 6' tall, and I can handle the stock height just fine, but I bought my V for road touring; I'm not planning to go Baja with it. I had a chance to get you block used from a guy down south who included a complete lowered kick stand with Flatfoot. Since I knew I could go back if I didn't like it, I jumped on it.

I love it! The bike still has plenty of suspension travel, but I like the way it looks and the way it feels much better being just a bit more street bike than Motard. It suits me perfectly, and even though I don't need the extra height, it's a lot easier for my wife to climb up on the back.

The Flat foot: Coolest idea for motorcycles EVER! Why doesn't every bike in the world come with this from the factory? I'll never have to carry a stinky old beer can crushed flat in my tank bag again...

Many many thanks for a very fine product.
Chris
:yeahsmile:

Generally, these mirror extenders were not designed to reduce vibrations, but in some cases they did. This is due to the fact that for some reason the engines of the bike resonate at different frequencies.

You've also asked me if I can ship to Australia. Yes, I ship (international mail) all over the world with few exceptions of the countries to which the mail never seems to reach the recipient:devil: Australia is on my good-to-go list, so no worries mate.

Speedy

Thanks Speedy, I will be ordering the mirror extender as soon as the Australian dollar goes back up.:cheers:

I just installed my lowering kit with the flat foot and it's perfect. I have a 30-1/2" inseam and with my modified lower seat I'm not on my tippy toes but also not flat food and feel a lot more comfortable. The install took me less than an hour including adjusting my front forks also didn't need to re-adjust my chain.

Thanks Speedy for the great product and fast delivery.

looks good id you lower the back do you have to do the same withe the front

looks good if you lower the back do you have to do the same withe the front

I lowered mine yesterday. I lowered the front after lowering the rear and installed the flatfoot kit. It keeps the bike closer to the same angle as before.

If you have a triple tree front stand (the kind that has a pin) and lifts the bike by the bottom of the triple tree like the photo below, it makes the lowering of the front a breeze if you have two people. It literally took us 5 minutes. See Warning Below!

http://indysuperbike.com/img/Pitbull/newfront.jpg

I used a stand like above and slid a 2X4 under the front wheel and made the 2X4 a lever to hold the wheel from dropping when my buddy loosened all 6 fork clamp screws. After they were all loose, I easily lifted the forks up to the new location with the 2X4. While I held in place, my buddy tightened up the fork clamps and we were done! If you do not have a front lift that uses the triple tree pin and a helper... DO NOT USE MY METHOD OF LOOSENING ALL THE FORK CLAMP BOLTS OR YOU WILL DROP YOUR BIKE ONTO THE FRONT FENDER!!!

If you do not have a front stand with pin, follow Speedy's instructions to lower the front.
(http://motowerk.com/Documents/Web%20Instructions%20for%20Lowering%20Front%20Susp ension.pdf)
Inspect your chain slack after lowering the rear, mine got tight and I had to adjust the tension per the owners / maintenance manual. This was my first chain driven bike so I had a little learning to do but it was not bad at all.

FYI if you adjust chain tension, you will need new cotter pins (5/32 X 1.5" Lowes has 'em) as well as a 22mm and 27mm socket for the rear axle bolt as well as two 12mm open end wrenches to adjust the tensioner screws.

Good luck!

Hi all and thanks Speedy for the lowering kit. I've had my V for less than a week now with 200 miles on the odo.

I just installed it this afternoon by myself in my carport, but while I was lowering the the forks I put one side 1mm below the smooth area by accident. Since I was working on this alone and it was getting dark, I didn't have time to correct this issue in time. The difference is 1mm or even possibly less. Is it safe to ride the bike with a minute variance of height in the front forks? I plan to fix it ASAP, but I'd like to know what this does to the handling.

Also, I'd like to know what is the correct height in millimetres above the non-smooth section of the forks it should be set at to be set perfectly with the lowering link? I want to retain the most neutral geometry as possible. I took it for a brief ride around the block and it seemed fine, but since I'm not an experienced rider its hard for me to know how different things will feel at speed. Should I make any changes in the damper settings relative to OEM? I weigh 175lb and ride mainly on asphalt, what damper settings are ideal for both front/rear?

I've installed Speedy lowering kits on 2009 and 2010 V's. In each case, I the front forks were slightly different - 1-2 mm - from each other. The 2009 has over 1100 miles, no problem. The 2010 has 200 miles, no problem. I'm not advocating setting them at different heights, but a small difference doesn't seem to cause difficulty. I recall that the proper height is 30 mm from the bottom of the washer on top to the top of the top bracket. It's in the V Maintenance Manual, which is on line here in the Forum.

Been reading up on this and I see at one time the lowering kit and flat foot came for one price.(unless I have misread it) Is that still true? Do we need a discount code?

Thanks and Have a Great day!

EDIT: ordered this am

Just ordered the lowering kit, flatfoot and peg kit. This should help my stumpy legs immensely. Speedy, you are bad ass.

When I did mine, I used my Harbor Freight rear spool stand in conjunction with my Harbor Freight motorcycle jack.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-capacity-atv-motorcycle-lift-2792.html

Start by pulling the cowls up front and the right rear trellis (not sure you even NEED to do this)

For the rear, I put the bike on the rear spool stand and then put the jack under the muffler (rearward) with a piece of wood. I lifted until the spools were just touching the rear stand, taking the weight off the swing arm. I installed the lowering kit (whistling while I worked) and l slowly lowered the bike until I could install the allen screw in the kit. Snugged everything up tight.......DONE. Ten minutes.

For the front, I left the bike on the rear stand and moved the jack forward, positioning the wood block under the lowest point of the exhaust header and took up the slack (front tire still on the ground). Loosened all of the triple clamp bolts and slowly lowered the bike to the desired level. Snugged the trees and....DONE! Ten minutes

Reinstall the cowls and trellis.

One man alone, stable bike, 30 minutes tops. This is a great kit.

V-Zee

With regards to shortening the side stand, has anyone tried a sidestand from a 650R or the EN-6? Does it fit? Is is short enough or too short?

When I did mine, I used my Harbor Freight rear spool stand in conjunction with my Harbor Freight motorcycle jack.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-capacity-atv-motorcycle-lift-2792.html

Start by pulling the cowls up front and the right rear trellis (not sure you even NEED to do this)

For the rear, I put the bike on the rear spool stand and then put the jack under the muffler (rearward) with a piece of wood. I lifted until the spools were just touching the rear stand, taking the weight off the swing arm. I installed the lowering kit (whistling while I worked) and l slowly lowered the bike until I could install the allen screw in the kit. Snugged everything up tight.......DONE. Ten minutes.

For the front, I left the bike on the rear stand and moved the jack forward, positioning the wood block under the lowest point of the exhaust header and took up the slack (front tire still on the ground). Loosened all of the triple clamp bolts and slowly lowered the bike to the desired level. Snugged the trees and....DONE! Ten minutes

Reinstall the cowls and trellis.

One man alone, stable bike, 30 minutes tops. This is a great kit.

V-Zee

Thanks, I received mine last week while I was gone and will try to git r done today or tomorrow.

Have a Great day!

Bob

Thanks, I received mine last week while I was gone and will try to git r done today or tomorrow.

Have a Great day!

Bob

Post up if you try my method and it worked for you. It was insanely simple and quick.

V-Zee

Post up if you try my method and it worked for you. It was insanely simple and quick.

V-Zee

I see a little difference in how I intend to do it. But not much. I for sure will let you know.

Our company has left for the day so I will be able to get at it tomorrow.

Just want to put in another good word. Quick delivery, great craftsmanship, easy install, and a HUGE difference in how comfortable the bike feels. :thanx: :thanx: :thanx: !!!

My method was even easier, I have a overhead storage and support beam, parked the bike underneath. Took the seat off and used some flat nylon webbing attached to the seat cross member, also have a cheap cable hoist, picked the back up first , then after the kit was installed did the same thing on the front using the handlebar mount and lifting up the front.( used to pull bell telephone cables into duct)

My method was even easier, I have a overhead storage and support beam, parked the bike underneath. Took the seat off and used some flat nylon webbing attached to the seat cross member, also have a cheap cable hoist, picked the back up first , then after the kit was installed did the same thing on the front using the handlebar mount and lifting up the front.( used to pull bell telephone cables into duct)

reminder to self #47283:
My next house WILL have a garage...

Just received the parts I ordered. Lowering kit, flat foot, and peg lowering kit. Parts look amazing, I haven't had time to install them yet though, that is for Sunday.

I installed the lowering kit today and all went well. Used a rear stand to hold the bike and then a scissors jack and a 4x4 between the rear tire (in gear) and rear subframe and jacked it up until the tenson on the bolt released.

I bought a Ninja 650R sidestand on eBay ($20 delivered) and swapped it with the Versys stand. Perfect.

So I did mine on saturday and it went well. My single biggest problem was finding a freaking tool to cut the bottom off the foot peg to put the new flatfoot on. Apparently there isn't a single hacksaw on the farm and my brother wore the angle grinder blade down to almost nothing so it was a challenge to cut the peg. However with that done....

I used a jack stand on the right hand side and a 2 ton hydraulic jack on the left foot peg to life the bike while I installed the lowering kit. That was surprisingly easy and I think anyone could do it.

The foot pegs were pretty straight forward though I was lazy initially and didn't move the pedals, after I drove home from the farm I pulled some wrenches and moved them though.

All in all I am thoroughly impressed with Speedys craftsmanship and will be watching for anything else he can come up with.

The cam gear pump works fine for filtered WVO or used motor oil Babington heaters and I have installed it on my Babington style heaters. Ldu Company's stock number is 450516 , The only thing about the cam gear pump is that the fire kind of pulses as the cam gear rotates. If you use the spur gear pump that is LDU's stock number 450512 then you get a steady non-pulsing fire. The WVO pump website is http://www.***********.com/subpages/oilpump_1.htm or you can click through to the tools section from the home page at www.LDUcompany.com (http://www.LDUcompany.com)

LDU Company also has other parts that I use for building my waste oil burners, like gear reduction motors. I find it best to turn the pump slower because you really don't need a whole lot of oil dripping on the atomizer ball.

WTH??:dgi:

+1 WTH and add WTF

Just had my lowering kit installed. I'm 5'8" and was on my tippy toes at every stop - even with 1 inch soles and 2 inch heels. Now I'm flat footed and lovin' the V even more (didn't think it was possible).

So if your thinking about it, stop! Go order Speedy's :clap: kit. You won't regret it.

Just had my lowering kit installed. I'm 5'8" and was on my tippy toes at every stop - even with 1 inch soles and 2 inch heels. Now I'm flat footed and lovin' the V even more (didn't think it was possible).

So if your thinking about it, stop! Go order Speedy's :clap: kit. You won't regret it.

Lisa, I agree 100%. I'm 5' 8" as well.

Please check your chain slack if you have not already, my chain got real tight when I lowered mine. If you don't know how to measure it, the owners manual has a section about how to.

Cheers!

Cap'n Kirk you are so right. The guy at my local shop installed the kit also adjusted the chain. Told me there was no give whatsoever.

Also had the flatfoot installed - don't have to carry that tile around anymore. Works on grass/dirt/gravel and hot tar.

Cap'n Kirk you are so right. The guy at my local shop installed the kit also adjusted the chain. Told me there was no give whatsoever.

:thumb:

Also had the flatfoot installed - don't have to carry that tile around anymore. Works on grass/dirt/gravel and hot tar.

:thumb: I have a flat foot too! I also used to carry a plastic "foot" in my gear for use on soft parking areas...No more!

Ride Safe!

Hi speedy: I have a 2009 Versys and have a question with the standard flatfoot.
Am I able to add the standard flatfoot without cutting away the footpeg ,after installing your lowering kit , without any problems with height/ angle?.

I would advise against doing that. The bike would stand too much upright and you run the risk of the bike falling over on the other side. :forgetit:
Instead, you should shorten the kickstand and install the flatfoot for lowering kit.

How do I order speedys kit?

Also...I was reading the forum recently and someone on here was making custom seats for versi...can anyone provide info on this, please!!!! My 2010 arrives wednesday!!!

http://motowerk.com/LoweringKit.aspx

You can order it from this page http://motowerk.com/Versys.aspx

Post up if you try my method and it worked for you. It was insanely simple and quick.

V-Zee


I have been busy. Sorry for the late reply!

This worked like a champ. Thanks for doing the write up. Only thing negative I experienced was the Allen head machine bolt stripped loooong before I got any where near the specified torque. (the head stripped) By a long shot this is the best Mod. I have done to this scoot.

That's funny (not really) I stripped mine too. Felt a little tight before I started to torque it down...backed off then the head popped off. Double-nutted the "stud" to back it out, twisted it off flush with the swing arm.... a week later finally got a right-angle drill and managed to drill-out the SS bolt/stud. Only the first 1/4" or so was damaged so I just switched to a longer high grade steel bolt.

That's funny (not really) I stripped mine too. Felt a little tight before I started to torque it down...backed off then the head popped off. Double-nutted the "stud" to back it out, twisted it off flush with the swing arm.... a week later finally got a right-angle drill and managed to drill-out the SS bolt/stud. Only the first 1/4" or so was damaged so I just switched to a longer high grade steel bolt.


Yeah, it is how a lot of my projects go...lol
Welcome to the forum. These folks are fantastic about sharing info.

It is still the best mod that I have done to this scoot.

Hi guys,

Thank you for your feedback.
Sorry about he M-6 mishap. I was concerned about it, so I decided to do some testing. I built a fixture and a special torque wrench attachment to test the screws for maximum load. I cranked one screw up to 22 lbs/ft, and the screw dug itself into the aluminum 0.007” deep, but it did not break. The rest of the screws I tested at 12 lbs/ft, which I recommend at this point. None of the screws that I had in stock failed. It looks like you guys had some bad luck because I’m getting my screws from Brikksen, Inc. and this is a reputable company with high quality stainless steel screws.
Question to gossamer – what was the screw that you used in the end? It would be good to know for the future.

Speedy

Hi guys,

Thank you for your feedback.
Sorry about he M-6 mishap. I was concerned about it, so I decided to do some testing. I built a fixture and a special torque wrench attachment to test the screws for maximum load. I cranked one screw up to 22 lbs/ft, and the screw dug itself into the aluminum 0.007” deep, but it did not break. The rest of the screws I tested at 12 lbs/ft, which I recommend at this point. None of the screws that I had in stock failed. It looks like you guys had some bad luck because I’m getting my screws from Brikksen, Inc. and this is a reputable company with high quality stainless steel screws.
Question to gossamer – what was the screw that you used in the end? It would be good to know for the future.

Speedy

No worries here. When I strip an Allen head it is usually my fault for not keeping things square to the world. Great products. PLEASE keep up the good work.

Thank You, Speedy!!!!!!
Just had my lowering kit and flat foot installed, I love it!!.
The quality is just awesome, now I can actually put my foot down and ride safe!!.
SSWWWWEEEETTT!!.

Thank You, Again.

I am ok with the stock height of the bike I can barely touch flat footed. I was curious if this mod changes the geometry of the bike enough to make it to where you can take advantage of the power in first gear without the front end coming up. This is the only thing I dont like about this bike. I dont really care for the front end coming up everytime I try and go somewhere fast in 1st and 2nd gear. I have already ordered a 44 tooth sprocket, I am sure that will help also. Please let me know

Thanks

Sorry for the late reply, just noticed the question. I used a steel M6-30mm and a thick lock washer for a touch of spacing with some blue Loctite.

hi,
i just put one of these up for sale.
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/showthread.php?p=107839#post107839

dave

I'd like to hear from someone that has the hugger and lowering kit installed.
Will it be necessary to trim the hugger? and if so, how did you fasten the hugger at the right front? or, can the lowering bracket be mounted on top of the hugger.

Seems to me it would give shock more leverage over wheel making it stiffer[in theory anyway]. I bought one though,and will be trying it soon.

I'd like to hear from someone that has the hugger and lowering kit installed.
Will it be necessary to trim the hugger? and if so, how did you fasten the hugger at the right front? or, can the lowering bracket be mounted on top of the hugger.

Petey..........My hugger is a TwinShack which I got from Adrenalin-Moto and is fiberglass and with a built in chain guard. Yes, I did have to trim the lower shock mount when it was installed.

If I remember correctly, when I installed my lowering link, I had a undrilled boss right behind the lower shock mount (rear meaning to the rear of the m/c, not behind the shock as you look at it from the side of the m/c) . I drilled and tapped this for a 6mm screw. My hugger is attached on the brake disc side by this screw and another tab that goes under the hose guide. On the chain side, it is held on by the two screws that held the original chain guard on.

I made sure to try and not overly twist the hugger and over stress the fiberglass when I installed it. At the front, I used some pieces of thin neoprene to keep it from vibrating...................Frog

I'd like to hear from someone that has the hugger and lowering kit installed.
Will it be necessary to trim the hugger? and if so, how did you fasten the hugger at the right front? or, can the lowering bracket be mounted on top of the hugger.

Yep, you have to trim out the hugger where the vertical screws goes into the lowering kit.

Thanks guys I'll will start the install of the lowering kit and the hugger soon..

I bought a Versys with this kit installed, but I'm 6'2" and don't want it. I'm having trouble taking the tension off the bolts to pull them out - any suggestions on how to remove this kit? I don't have a bike jack, I have a spool stand.

Thanks!

I bought a Versys with this kit installed, but I'm 6'2" and don't want it. I'm having trouble taking the tension off the bolts to pull them out - any suggestions on how to remove this kit? I don't have a bike jack, I have a spool stand.

Thanks!

lift the bike by supporting the footpegs- anything will do, from upside down buckets, to car jacks, to specially made contraptions. That way there's no tension on the shock bolts.

Got it, thanks! I raised the front suspension up about 3/4" from where it was and it feels pretty good. Does anyone know the stock distance between the fork's rough surface and the bottom of the lower triple clamp?

Hi Speedy

Please tell me where I can order some of this stuff.

Hi Speedy

Please tell me where I can order some of this stuff.

http://motowerk.com/Versys.aspx

:goodluck:

He makes great stuff and ships fast!

Whoa. Ordered mine 2/25 and it was at the door 2/28. No foolin. To CT. Hot dang.

Will be mountin it up this weekend (along w the flat foot [which I am pumped for also kawi = duh] and lowering the front).

Then maybe taking the ol girl out in the next week! Actually don't mind the rain if it cleans up these roads a bit!

If i fit the lowering kit, do i have to lower the forks too, or can i leave them as is? If i don't lower the forks, can i leave the sidestand alone too?

If i fit the lowering kit, do i have to lower the forks too, or can i leave them as is? If i don't lower the forks, can i leave the sidestand alone too?

Most agree that you should shorten the kickstand and raise the forks (lower the triple tree). This give the bike best handling and less likely for tipover while parked. I have done both and am very pleased with the results. Its really a quick job.

Below copied from here. (http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/showpost.php?p=85847&postcount=161)

I lowered mine yesterday. I lowered the front after lowering the rear and installed the flatfoot kit. It keeps the bike closer to the same angle as before.

If you have a triple tree front stand (the kind that has a pin) and lifts the bike by the bottom of the triple tree like the photo below, it makes the lowering of the front a breeze if you have two people. It literally took us 5 minutes. See Warning Below!

http://indysuperbike.com/img/Pitbull/newfront.jpg

I used a stand like above and slid a 2X4 under the front wheel and made the 2X4 a lever to hold the wheel from dropping when my buddy loosened all 6 fork clamp screws. After they were all loose, I easily lifted the forks up to the new location with the 2X4. While I held in place, my buddy tightened up the fork clamps and we were done! If you do not have a front lift that uses the triple tree pin and a helper... DO NOT USE MY METHOD OF LOOSENING ALL THE FORK CLAMP BOLTS OR YOU WILL DROP YOUR BIKE ONTO THE FRONT FENDER!!!

If you do not have a front stand with pin, follow Speedy's instructions to lower the front.
(http://motowerk.com/Documents/Web%20Instructions%20for%20Lowering%20Front%20Susp ension.pdf)
Inspect your chain slack after lowering the rear, mine got tight and I had to adjust the tension per the owners / maintenance manual. This was my first chain driven bike so I had a little learning to do but it was not bad at all.

FYI if you adjust chain tension, you will need new cotter pins (5/32 X 1.5" Lowes has 'em) as well as a 22mm and 27mm socket for the rear axle bolt as well as two 12mm open end wrenches to adjust the tensioner screws.

Good luck!

Yes you have to lower the forks as well because when you lower the rear, in order to have the same turning and control you have to lower the front forks. For the protection of your bike you will want to lower the sidestand because the bike does not have enough slant.

I ordered one of these recently from Speedy. I just wanted to say that it arrived quickly, was nicely machined, and went on easily.

Thanks Speedy!

I would like to concur with this.

Excellent product Speedy

Im 6 feet tall, had no problems with the stock setup, and could touch the ground easily. I lowered the bike to make it more stable at the recommendation of a Hyabusa owner I know. The bike is so much easier and more fun to ride its hard to believe. If you dont absolutely need the stock height or race you must do this mod! I went with the Hyperpro lowering spring and that improved the ride quality immensely. I have Speedy's footpeg lowering blocks, swingarm spools, and Flatfoot for my shortened sidestand and must say his stuff is top notch.

I installed Speedy's lowering kit, flatfoot, and 10 mm swingarm spools last night.

Lowered the front as per instructions.

Everything went well and the bike feels so much more comfortable when I sit and straddle when stopped.

The road clearance is still very good. Had planned to measure it but it was getting late and already dark. Prior clearance was 7 inches +/- a few millimeters and the link lowers it 1.8 inches.

Has anyone taken an accurate road clearance measurement after installing Speedy's lowering kit?

Clearance should be about 5.2 inches +/- a few mm I would imagine.

I received my lowering kit and kickstand mod, along with the footpeg lowering kit a few days ago. Really fast shipping and good quality parts. I'll be installing it all and lowering the front when I get home from this trip. :D

Looking forward to the GPS mount for the 2011's.

So I lowered the rear with no issues, had the front lowered but noticed that the right side shock wasn't even with the left by just a little. Tried to loosen the right side again and the triple tree on that side dropped about 3 inches and I can't get it back up. Reading through the threads for ways to jack the front up but don't have any of the things I need for that. Any suggestions on how to get some weight off so I can pull this right shock back down a few inches? Thought about using a car jack and some wood to put some upward pressure on the triple tree so I can try to pull the shock back down. Thoughts?

For doing front end work I have a cheap $20 cable hoist rated for 1 ton. I use a 1/2 inch nylon web around the handlebar mount and pick the whole bike up using my overhead beam in the garage. If you have a tree nearby and a rope using a truckers hitch you should be able to pull the front up, about 200 LBS.

Thoughts?

At this point, I would not do anything jack leg that could damage your bike if it falls, jumps, forks collapse etc..

Might me a good time to use the right tool for the job and buy a front stand with a triple tree pin.

http://indysuperbike.com/img/Pitbull/newfront.jpg

If you do, you have to put the bike on a rear stand first! There are some good value stands out there like the T-Rex that wont cost too much!

If you were close, I would gladly help you with my stand! Try asking around to see if anyone has a set of stands you could borrow! You may have to buy a different pin to fit our bike but those are cheap.

I just changed the rear sprocket on my bike this morning and have found having a complete set of stands has been quite useful. I use them much more than I thought I would.

:goodluck:

Thanks Kirk! I ended up ordering a regular front stand but I didn't get the one with the pin for the triple tree, it goes into the forks which wouldn't have helped. I ended up taking a 2 ton floor jack, bracing the back wheels with the wall and a 2 x 4 and then found a cut shovel handle about 2 1/2 feet long, used it to jack up on the triple tree bracket, pulled fork down, tightened it up, good to go! I did have my lady hold the bike while I did it to keep it from tipping and then made her keep holding it, lol, while I sawed the kickstand and installed the flat foot. Thanks everyone, glad she's back to together, lowered, and ready to ride. Now if the rain would stop :-)

Mac

Thanks everyone, glad she's back to together, lowered, and ready to ride. Now if the rain would stop :-)

Mac

I am glad you made it work! :thumb:

Are the lowering links still available? I tried going to the motowerk site, but the page couldn't be found, and its been that way for at least a few days. Please tell me this is just a temporary hiccup.

I'm still alive and kicking. :yeahsmile: Please type www.motowerk.com and you will see my new website. Microsoft killed the web hosting service I used in the past.:eek:
Speedy

Received and installed my parts yesterday. I got the lowering block, the flat foot, and a set of spools.
All items were top quality. I installed everything last night. With just 311 miles on my new bike,
it now fits me much better. Thanks!

www.motowerk.com

I'm still alive and kicking. :yeahsmile: Please type www.motowerk.com and you will see my new website. Microsoft killed the web hosting service I used in the past.:eek:
Speedy

In deed you are you just sent me a kit today coming to spokane! Looking forward to getting it.

Received and installed my parts yesterday. I got the lowering block, the flat foot, and a set of spools.
All items were top quality. I installed everything last night. With just 311 miles on my new bike,
it now fits me much better. Thanks!

www.motowerk.com

I ordered lowering kit and flat foot what are spools?

I ordered lowering kit and flat foot what are spools?


Swingarm spools so you can use a bike stand.
They will also protect the swingarm if you have an accident.

Edited ....added pics of the bike on the stand and my hoist I used
to support the bike while I lowered it. Also added a picture from
yesterday at lunch. Does not really look much different than stock.

http://www.shop.motowerk.com/Swingarm-Spools-KA-10MMSPOOLS.htm

Looks Good!

Swingarm spools so you can use a bike stand.
They will also protect the swingarm if you have an accident.

Edited ....added pics of the bike on the stand and my hoist I used
to support the bike while I lowered it. Also added a picture from
yesterday at lunch. Does not really look much different than stock.

http://www.shop.motowerk.com/Swingarm-Spools-KA-10MMSPOOLS.htm

Ohhh ok oops I thought I would just buy one of those rear wheel lifts from harbour frieght and be good to go. Dang just bought the lowering kit and flat foot from speedy yesterday.... I think I need to get the bike off the ground to put the lowering kit on I will figure something out. Just checked shipping tracker and see the 2009 Ble V is in my town waiting for a call to have them drop it off at the house. ;-)

I think I need to get the bike off the ground to put the lowering kit on I will figure something out.

You can't use a normal rear stand to install the lowering kit on. The swingarm needs to be free. I had a friend help me lift the bike while my wife placed 2 jack stands under the aluminum pieces that attach the foot pegs. I think we used some rags between the jack stands and bike to keep the jacks from scratching the aluminum.

http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/v/vspfiles/m/Norco/81205_JackStand_300.jpg

Kirk is correct. You need to get the weight off the swingarm.
I used my overhead hoist and some straps to lift the bike
off the rear stand.

You can't use a normal rear stand to install the lowering kit on. The swingarm needs to be free. I had a friend help me lift the bike while my wife placed 2 jack stands under the aluminum pieces that attach the foot pegs. I think we used some rags between the jack stands and bike to keep the jacks from scratching the aluminum.

http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/v/vspfiles/m/Norco/81205_JackStand_300.jpg

thnaks much kirk i will do just that