been looking through the threads and everyone is talking about pipes exhaust power commander and say they can feel the difference...i never believe that and seen it not to be true many times when adding pipes and playing with fuel mixtures......you have to perform rollons on the highway against another bike in fifth gear...before and after exhaust change..to see if result is better or worst...all this seat of the pants dont work... the sound of the pipe throws you all off....ill bet any with those mods does a rollon against a stock v the stock v will walk way from you on the highway....raising your powerband you lose torque ...for the track thats good news in the street real world your in the back of the pack down shifting

Aw come on it's not a GSXR, who cares? Let em have their fun.

Aw come on it's not a GSXR, who cares? Let em have their fun.
well your right its all about fun ... its not like i told some little kid there no santas :eek:

Are you sure about that??

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Are you sure about that??

:D at 52 i still believe in santa ....xmax and santa had to be the best feeling in the world as a kid...the worst feeling is watching a stock bike pull away

at 52 i still believe in santa ....xmax and santa had to be the best feeling in the world as a kid...the worst feeling is watching a stock bike pull away

Especially after dumping all that money into performance mods...

:D:D

You're missing the point.


It's all about perception.



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You're missing the point.


It's all about perception.



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lol now in confused

Nah exhaust are about saving weight......or is that saving lives? :) I like mine stock thank you. I think parallel twins sound weird so I wont be putting a pipe on mine.

It is moot to argue about this, and frankly, what do you care?

I would be interested to doing some trials against a stocked, and trading machines with someone, but what it comes down to is that I couldn't be happier with how mine runs now... and isn't that what it's all about?

When i put the pipe and can on, I did notice some loss of low end, and the "kick" came in 1000 RPM higher. But the trade off was worth it. The top end power was much nicer than before, and the bike ran ultra smooth. The power commander has given me back the bottom end rush, and I don't remember the bike pulling as hard as it does from as low down the RPM range. I can bog it in third, and it will pull very hard and smooth from 1500 RPM.

I am a happy man, and I think the mods were worth the $800 bucks... besides, I've spent much more than that on bags, tires, windscreen etc...:D


Enjoy the ride, however you want it!:thumb:


PS... The can is not loud... just pleasing.

It is moot to argue about this, and frankly, what do you care?

I would be interested to doing some trials against a stocked, and trading machines with someone, but what it comes down to is that I couldn't be happier with how mine runs now... and isn't that what it's all about?

When i put the pipe and can on, I did notice some loss of low end, and the "kick" came in 1000 RPM higher. But the trade off was worth it. The top end power was much nicer than before, and the bike ran ultra smooth. The power commander has given me back the bottom end rush, and I don't remember the bike pulling as hard as it does from as low down the RPM range. I can bog it in third, and it will pull very hard and smooth from 1500 RPM.

I am a happy man, and I think the mods were worth the $800 bucks... besides, I've spent much more than that on bags, tires, windscreen etc...:D


Enjoy the ride, however you want it!:thumb:


PS... The can is not loud... just pleasing.

Red it all about being happy thats for sure....find a stocker to rollon against on the highway......then tell me if your happy.....just joking Red :) hope to own one soon

You mean you don't even own a Versys & you're already stirring the pot!?

Besides... Don't these headers look gorgeous? (Thanks Bob!)



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And how would you even know how it runs never having had one!:mad:

Damn that's a bitchin lookin ride!

Besides... Don't these headers look gorgeous? (Thanks Bob!)



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And how would you even know how it runs never having had one!:mad:
yes i have to say they look dam good...like the looks with the lowers off

You mean you don't even own a Versys & you're already stirring the pot!?
well if thats a question ..answer is yes..why the hell not :clap:..havent seen one in person yet looking forward to it..

find a stocker to rollon against on the highway......then tell me if your happy...

What's this roll-on stuff? Is that what people that ride in the city all the time do to feel like they are going fast? ;)

Gustavo

What's this roll-on stuff?
It's deodorant

What's this roll-on stuff? Is that what people that ride in the city all the time do to feel like they are going fast? ;)

Gustavo
..ROLLON is like a dyno you see the power unfold and see it real time what bike has the power...takes away the better rider advantage but ypu know that

Well, here's my take. I would have to strongly disagree with you. My highly calibrated butt-o-meter tells me that there is a DEFINATE increase from 3000 rpm and up, and, according to Akrapovic, approx a 5 horsepower advantage throughout the mid-range, ending with an additional one horsepower on top. Roll on performance is where I notice it most. No comparison to stock. Oh, and I might mention, the pipe has the spud to keep it quiet, nearly as quiet as stock, so "loud" and "perception", is not in the equation. I'm sure the pipe fanatics will agree.......:)....besides, how can you make the claim when you don't own one? Even if you speak from experience on other bikes, they are not the Versys, and you have to experience it before you can comment. I've had a lot of others....zx12r, zx9r, blackbirds, and on....you can't notice the difference on those bikes, because there is so much to start with, its impossible to tell, even if the dyno says there's more. The V has "only" 60 some-odd RWH to start with, so with an additional 5-6 horse, that's nearly a 10 percent gain.....not to shabby...and assuredly noticeable. :)

Well put Redline. I have noticed a big difference since my exhaust and PCIII mods. It takes more than louder exhaust for my butt to register quicker accelleration and more power.

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Well, here's my take. I would have to strongly disagree with you. My highly calibrated butt-o-meter tells me that there is a DEFINATE increase from 3000 rpm and up, and, according to Akrapovic, approx a 5 horsepower advantage throughout the mid-range, ending with an additional one horsepower on top. Roll on performance is where I notice it most. No comparison to stock. Oh, and I might mention, the pipe has the spud to keep it quiet, nearly as quiet as stock, so "loud" and "perception", is not in the equation. I'm sure the pipe fanatics will agree.......:)....besides, how can you make the claim when you don't own one? Even if you speak from experience on other bikes, they are not the Versys, and you have to experience it before you can comment. I've had a lot of others....zx12r, zx9r, blackbirds, and on....you can't notice the difference on those bikes, because there is so much to start with, its impossible to tell, even if the dyno says there's more. The V has "only" 60 some-odd RWH to start with, so with an additional 5-6 horse, that's nearly a 10 percent gain.....not to shabby...and assuredly noticeable. :)
redline is that a full system or a slip on ? and did you have to go for a power commander ?.....if I go versys im hoping just a add a slip on and touch nothing else and lose nothing ..just gain a little sound......so are you telling me you have done rollons against your buddys bikes and seen a difference or just by seat of your pants...thanks for info....Sal

It takes more than louder exhaust for my butt to register quicker accelleration and more power.


Yes but when was the last time you had your butt calibrated? :D

redline is that a full system or a slip on ? and did you have to go for a power commander ?.....if I go versys im hoping just a add a slip on and touch nothing else and lose nothing ..just gain a little sound......so are you telling me you have done rollons against your buddys bikes and seen a difference or just by seat of your pants...thanks for info....Sal

It's just the end can Sal, and the only mod. Roll-ons are difficult to judge, even if you were to "race" it against a buddies identical bike. There are too many variables to account for. Rider weight, reaction time to the word "go", state of tune to each bike, even right down to tire inflation {for pete's sake!!}. What does matter is that when you crack the throttle open in first at 4000 rpm, same day, 1/2 hour apart, same load of fuel, right after lunch, how hard it comes up. With the stock muffler, it does come up, but not violently, with the pipe, you have to be careful not to loop it. And lest you think the bar "tug" might sway the outcome, the tests were done with one hand on the throttle only, and the other on my lap. Second gear roll-on wheelies won't happen with the stock muffler, with the aftermarket {Akrapovic}, it will, albeit with less drama. I guess what I'm saying is that anytime you can feel a difference, and then have it backed up by the dyno, your "sensationalism" factor isn't in the equation, but cold, hard, fact....mid-range response, although no where as noticeable, can still be felt. If you have enough seat time with the stock set-up and then change something, anything, and notice a difference, then all that matters is that there is, to you, the individual rider. My take, go for the pipe...you won't be disappointed. Don't really care whose pipe, read all the posts about the owners experiences, then judge for yourself.....smile. :)

It's just the end can Sal, and the only mod. Roll-ons are difficult to judge, even if you were to "race" it against a buddies identical bike. There are too many variables to account for. Rider weight, reaction time to the word "go", state of tune to each bike, even right down to tire inflation {for pete's sake!!}. What does matter is that when you crack the throttle open in first at 4000 rpm, same day, 1/2 hour apart, same load of fuel, right after lunch, how hard it comes up. With the stock muffler, it does come up, but not violently, with the pipe, you have to be careful not to loop it. And lest you think the bar "tug" might sway the outcome, the tests were done with one hand on the throttle only, and the other on my lap. Second gear roll-on wheelies won't happen with the stock muffler, with the aftermarket {Akrapovic}, it will, albeit with less drama. I guess what I'm saying is that anytime you can feel a difference, and then have it backed up by the dyno, your "sensationalism" factor isn't in the equation, but cold, hard, fact....mid-range response, although no where as noticeable, can still be felt. you have enough seat time with the stock set-up and then change something, anything, and notice a difference, then all that matters is that there is, to you, the individual rider. My take, go for the pipe...you won't be disappointed. Don't really care whose pipe, read all the posts about the owners experiences, then judge for yourself.....smile. :)

well thats info in looking for..all stock.except for your slip on...header pipe is stock.ail filter ect...i can see a cleaner pull with that...thing with rollons is dont matter who wins......its the distance your lost or gained how far you pull the other bike or other bike pulls you....you learn more from being behind

Boy that Bob sure has a nice looking bike!

reading a few articals about er-6n...read many times it a good starter bike..that bumed me out...why a started bike....seems to have good quarter mile times