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Lukejt
08-12-2008, 06:35 PM
So I'm sitting at a light tonight and a Harley pulls up behind me. For the next 90 seconds or so I'm rewarded with the sounds of Vroooom....Vroooooooom....Vroooooom...and so on. :clap: Yeah, your bike makes noise, very nice. :thumb: Low and behold, another Harley turns left in front of us, and I **** you not, he's got the clutch half pulled in so that while he's turning, he's also making noises.....Vroooom....Vroooom, now in stereo...Vrooooooom...... It was silly, and insane. Maybe it's the vibrations, perhaps it feels so good it tickles their assholes just right or something. There must be SOME reason a good number of Harley riders insist on revving the piss out of their motors while standing still.


Second observation, 70% of Harley riders in my area do not wave back. I don't know if this is because:

A; I'm not on a Harley therefore I'm not cool enough to warrant the trouble of waving.

B; They're holding on for dear life and dare not let go of the bars for fear of losing control.

C; They're in their own world and simply don't give a rats ass about waving to other riders.

Harley riders seem to shop an awful lot at Harley dealerships. I mean, how else can you get a complete matching outfit of Harley T shirt, Harley sunglasses, Harley jeans, Harley gloves, Harley boots, a Harley bandanna and a handful of HD decals for good measure?

Finally, while at work and not on a bike where I can get around them, I'm often held up by groups of Harley riders going down the fast lane at say 54mph holding up a 1/4 mile string of traffic for miles and miles. I now see why these bikes are called HOGS. WTF, move out of the way please. I mean, I know your bike cost 3X the Versys and weighs 2.5X the Versys yet has LESS BHP, but come on, it's got to be able to move down the highway in the fast lane at say.....65mph, isn't it?

:)

Luke

Bear on a bicycle
08-12-2008, 07:00 PM
So I'm sitting at a light tonight and a Harley pulls up behind me. For the next 90 seconds or so I'm rewarded with the sounds of Vroooom....Vroooooooom....Vroooooom...and so on. :clap: Yeah, your bike makes noise, very nice. :thumb: Low and behold, another Harley turns left in front of us, and I **** you not, he's got the clutch half pulled in so that while he's turning, he's also making noises.....Vroooom....Vroooom, now in stereo...Vrooooooom...... It was silly, and insane. Maybe it's the vibrations, perhaps it feels so good it tickles their assholes just right or something. There must be SOME reason a good number of Harley riders insist on revving the piss out of their motors while standing still.


Second observation, 70% of Harley riders in my area do not wave back. I don't know if this is because:

A; I'm not on a Harley therefore I'm not cool enough to warrant the trouble of waving.

B; They're holding on for dear life and dare not let go of the bars for fear of losing control.

C; They're in their own world and simply don't give a rats ass about waving to other riders.

Harley riders seem to shop an awful lot at Harley dealerships. I mean, how else can you get a complete matching outfit of Harley T shirt, Harley sunglasses, Harley jeans, Harley gloves, Harley boots, a Harley bandanna and a handful of HD decals for good measure?

Finally, while at work and not on a bike where I can get around them, I'm often held up by groups of Harley riders going down the fast lane at say 54mph holding up a 1/4 mile string of traffic for miles and miles. I now see why these bikes are called HOGS. WTF, move out of the way please. I mean, I know your bike cost 3X the Versys and weighs 2.5X the Versys yet has LESS BHP, but come on, it's got to be able to move down the highway in the fast lane at say.....65mph, isn't it?

:)

Luke

SOOO true!!! I've been caught behind the Harley drag-net myself a few times.

:D:D:D


Funny you mention the waving, Sunday I was out for about an hour or so on the bike. The ONLY 2 waves were from a pair of Harley riders in full costume, do-rags, tattoos on sleeveless arms & all!! I laughed out loud in my helmet! They were the last two bikers I saw before pulling into my neighborhood. :D

Funny **** indeed...

miguelito
08-12-2008, 08:21 PM
I've noticed that the harley guys in southern NM are much friendlier than they are up north. The other corollary I've noticed is that if the Harley has "ape hanger" handlebars they never wave, ( I assume because they might lose control of their rides if they hazarded a wave! :)

heehaw
08-12-2008, 09:18 PM
Here in NJ it varies - some don't wave, some give you the finger ;-)

sharrison56
08-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Most of the Harley riders here in the Atlanta area will wave, but there are plenty that don't. Seems like most riders here will wave.

scaryfast777
08-12-2008, 11:27 PM
Hey guys,
I tried this joke out on a friend of mine (harley rider) and he wasn't so fond of it but you've really got to try it out on a harley rider sometime.

Joke:
YOU: Hey, do you know what the difference is between a harley and a hoover vacuum cleaner?
HARLEY FAN: What?
YOU: The position of the dirt-bag......

I wouldn't recommend using this at the local harley bar hangout but nonetheless it is a good one.

oscar.45
08-13-2008, 10:40 AM
In Northern Colorado it’s a mixed bag. If the Harley rider is in a group on weekends I can get most of them to wave back. If there single and on a chopped or custom bike no way. There is one person that I pass almost every day on the way to work. This guy just glares at me when I wave, kind of a “how dare you look”. I just laugh.

There are a couple of BMW-GS riders that refuse to wave unless you are on a GS. I usually see them on weekends and they never wave. Then one day while I was riding with a GS they waved, not a me of course.

…Harley riders seem to shop an awful lot at Harley dealerships. I mean, how else can you get a complete matching outfit of Harley T shirt, Harley sunglasses, Harley jeans, Harley gloves, Harley boots, a Harley bandanna and a handful of HD decals for good measure?...

You forgot the Harley underware. :D

Ocean
08-13-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm not into bashing one group or another but they are the group least likely to wave (unless they are new and haven't been told to not wave). I mix the HD guys in with the Metric Cruisers into one group called the "Cruisers'. These are the riders into the look not the ride.

When I took my M2 Exit course in June we were asked how many kilometers we ride annually. The three cruisers answered each about 3000 kilometers - I responded 10,000 kilometers. They were the worst of the bunch. One guy barely passed with the maximum number of errors, a second one blew through the quick stop with a 10' patch and the third commented that she has never scraped her highway boards before (which were 3" off the ground).

Now, I've run into some very professional cruiser riders but it seems to be the exception versis the norm. The group that I've found to be the most likely to wave are the sport bike dudes/dudettes in full leathers. Seems kind of backwards - I'd thought these riders would be too elite for that kind of thing.


That joke about the Hoover - to dam funny. I have to remember that one. I blew ramen noodles through my nose when I read that one.

Lukejt
08-13-2008, 11:11 AM
The worst riders for sure are the kids on Youtube showing off for their friends. They always seem to stop 50' past the person holding the video camera to capture the lame wheelie attempt. The rider is ascared to hit the binders, in most videos they wind up shouting at the camera man from afar "how was that?". :)


I almost killed a drunk Harley rider a few weeks ago coming home from work. I noticed a small SUV flying out of a parking lot and into my path so I slowed down. It was a drunk woman. Had I not slowed down for her I might have T boned her in my service van at 60mph. Low and behold a drunk ass Harley rider comes flying out right behind her, swerving all over two lanes of highway trying to follow her. If I were not paying attention he would have been TOAST. I gave him a few kind words when I got close enough. As best I can tell it was two drunk lovers leaving a bar, headed to the trailer park for some extra marital fun. NEITHER the driver or the riders looked at the road or slowed down one bit as they turned onto I-140, which has got to be one of the most dangerous roads in my area. It's a busy road with people driving 70+mph all day long.

I see plenty of guys on the road who look like they can hardly handle a turn. Sad. I take pride in being able to make a U turn anywhere at the slowest speed imaginable w/o placing a foot down. :) Dirt biking improved my street skillz a thousand fold.

thesmithiz
08-13-2008, 11:24 AM
I used to ride a Harley and belonged to the HD forum and they do their fair of other bike bashing, especially non-HD cruisers. Then I switched to the Honda ST1300 which was more of a clut like existance on that site and the HD bashing was not so much they were more into Squid bashing cloaked as scoldings. Now I am here and it's a mix of both and I do love some good hearted ribbing at everyones exspense just don't take yourself to serious and try to kid yourselves that the "other" bikers, riders, enthusists etc don't think thier bike is the greatest and that we and our odd looking bikes are,,,,well odd!
And yes when I had my HD I did rev it but not for you it was purely for me cuz I thought it sounded cool and I liked to listen to it, hell at least I can admit it though!!!!!!

Red Alert
08-13-2008, 04:43 PM
I've felt for years that H-D wasn't selling a motorcycle as much as they were selling a life-style. The clothing and branded accessories, make H-D more money than the bikes do.

Also, if you were to drive into a strange town and wanted to find a seedy bar how would you do it? Me, I'd look for all the H-Ds parked in a bar parking lot. I've never met a group that spends as much time around the bar as on the road as a H-D group.

IMHO, YMMV.

Red

thegrandwazoo
08-13-2008, 05:18 PM
HD riders never wave here in Phoenix. Neither do MC cops! :-P

heehaw
08-13-2008, 05:51 PM
HD riders never wave here in Phoenix. Neither do MC cops! :-P

Maybe the cops are on harleys :)

AAParatrooper
08-13-2008, 07:51 PM
I'm happy to see that I'm not the only person that has made this observation. Over the years, I have asked many HD riders what gives and they all say the same thing--It's not me. I wave at everyone.

nvoelsch
08-13-2008, 11:08 PM
I don't seem to have a problem with waves from Harley riders here in Oregon. I do believe I have more difficulty with the Harley tourists who come through and don't wave. Especially along the coast.

Sometimes I think they might catch themselves - a half wave by accident and then, "what the heck was that bike?" as they glance over their shoulder sheepishly...

Hooligan
08-14-2008, 04:30 PM
I just wave at every body. If they want to be an assmonkey and not wave back, that's on them.

br6ppc
08-14-2008, 07:51 PM
I've had a couple of waves from H-D's. Most of the metric cruiser guys will wave at me. The seroius sprotbike crowd (ATGATT) will wave. I have yet to get a wave from a squid (shorts, wife beater, sneakers/flip-flops). I razz a good friend of mine at work about his H-D. I keep telling him I'm going to put an oil drip pan under his bike and set a quart of oil by his kickstand:p. Plus, I could almost buy 3 Versys for what he paid:eek:.

Lukejt
08-14-2008, 08:03 PM
I just wave at every body. If they want to be an assmonkey and not wave back, that's on them.
:thumb::thumb::thumb:

Lukejt
08-14-2008, 08:06 PM
I have yet to get a wave from a squid (shorts, wife beater, sneakers/flip-flops). paid:eek:.

They probably don't know any better.

It is a pain sometimes when it's crowded with lot's of bikers, on a nice day though. :)

totomojo
08-14-2008, 08:15 PM
Some wave. Some don't. Insecurity levels vary.

Way back, in Arkansas I bought a Honda Shadow from a neighbor of my dads and rode it back to Wichita where I lived at the time. 20 miles into the trip, weaving through the twisties in Bella Vista I pass a old dude going the other way on a old Harley (Panhead, Shovelhead, Show me to the Head... I don't know what it was). This guy had a foot long beard blowing back around his face and gave me the biggest wave I've ever gotten. Some Harley riders are cool. Most aren't. I don't even want to get into the subject of their loud pipe penile compensators.

"a pair of Harley riders in full costume, do-rags, tattoos on sleeveless arms & all!!"

The Harley Costume. Exactly how I describe them. :yeahsmile:

You forgot the Harley underware[/I]

Comes with dyed in skid marks :D

thequadnut
08-14-2008, 09:08 PM
I used to ride a Harley and belonged to the HD forum and they do their fair of other bike bashing, especially non-HD cruisers. Then I switched to the Honda ST1300 which was more of a clut like existance on that site and the HD bashing was not so much they were more into Squid bashing cloaked as scoldings. Now I am here and it's a mix of both and I do love some good hearted ribbing at everyones exspense just don't take yourself to serious and try to kid yourselves that the "other" bikers, riders, enthusists etc don't think thier bike is the greatest and that we and our odd looking bikes are,,,,well odd!
And yes when I had my HD I did rev it but not for you it was purely for me cuz I thought it sounded cool and I liked to listen to it, hell at least I can admit it though!!!!!!

I agree on the revving!! I like the sound of mine 2. And of course all it takes is a slight blip from the other guy to get me going!!!:D:D:D

totomojo
08-14-2008, 09:14 PM
If you are interested in some... uh... scathing... observations on Harley riders go here. Not for the faint of Harley.

http://www.goingfaster.com/

tweak
08-21-2008, 05:07 PM
(shorts, wife beater, sneakers/flip-flops).

My buddy Ken and I were riding on monday, and Ken rides a harley street bob all decked out and I've got my versys, we were riding out of town and saw a guy on some sort of street bike, I was a lil too freaked out to pay too much attention due to the fact that the road was crowded. However, the guy had exactly what you said, the shorts, tanktop, and flipflops. Ken and I rode for a lil bit, and I **** you not, the guy hit something, some sort of sand or pebbles or whatever it was it made him wobble and he had to throw a foot down at I'd say 45mph, we caught up to him, and the guy just had blood allll over his flipflop. Ken and I are just laughing, going "dumbass."

I still don't know what the fascination is with riding in flipflops.. I mean, they make uber comfy bike boots, and if something happens, in boots at least your foot isn't going to be bleeding. Maybe it's just because I haven't been riding long enough.. :D

dallasdon
08-21-2008, 08:22 PM
Along with my Versys I also own a Honda ST1300. An interesting encounter was had with a Harley the other day while I was out riding the ST1300

I am of the age that I generally do not race away from stoplights trying to impress others, however I got trapped by a HD rider last Saturday in Rockwall, TX. and couldn't help myself.

I was on the service road on I-30 Eastbound when I was stopped by a light crossing Ridge Rd. I was first in line and all of a sudden a HD rider on a 1200cc sportser pulled up next to me in the same lane and began revving his engine like a teenager. Loud yes, Impress me? No. I had my open face helmet on and was able to talk with him a minute before the light changed, or rather he talked to me. He began telling me about his after market pipes and how they didn't have any restriction and how the rejetting made his bike really, really fast. I quietly nodded in acceptance and commented on what a nice looking bike it was. He continued to tell me how fast his bike was in an attempt to goad me into a race, but since I knew what the outcome would be, I politely ignored the implied challenge.

Well, the light changed, his pipes roared, and he was off in a flash with his head bandanna flying in the wind. I casually put my ST1300 through the gears and followed him with no fanfare. At this point on the service road you have one more light to go through before entering the Interstate across Lake Ray Hubbard. He was patiently waiting for me to catch up with him and when I pulled up to him at the next light, he was grinning from ear to ear and began ribbing me about my Honda "Buffalo". Apparently he had never run across an ST before and was sure he would not have a problem running all over me. I don't think he will make that mistake again.

I'd had enough by then and when the light changed he screamed off in front of me and went down the entrance ramp to the interstate. I looked back down the interstate at the traffic coming and to my surprise all lanes were wide open for about a quarter mile. That was all I needed to see.

I patted the ST and said lets go. I ran it to red line in each gear. Somewhere in third, I passed him doing about 100 and flew onto the bridge banging the rest of the gears for about a half mile. I then let off and started backing down my speed. In my mirror there was a small image of the HD rider trying to allow other cars to fill the distance between us. I slowed to about 60 to allow him to catch up, but he maintained his distance so I rode on and left him to his thoughts. What his thought were, I'm not sure, but I don't think he will make that mistake again.

I believe that all bikers are proud of their bikes as they should be, but don't try and cram it down other peoples throats. Like I said, I'm too old to do that kind of thing, but his attitude was just a bit too much to take.

I'm curious now as to how my Versys would run against him. Another day.

tweak
08-21-2008, 11:33 PM
That would be a super huge, super awesome bike right there. Like a versys on steroids :D

miguelito
08-22-2008, 10:15 AM
I patted the ST and said lets go. I ran it to red line in each gear. Somewhere in third, I passed him doing about 100 and flew onto the bridge banging the rest of the gears for about a half mile. I then let off and started backing down my speed. In my mirror there was a small image of the HD rider trying to allow other cars to fill the distance between us. I slowed to about 60 to allow him to catch up, but he maintained his distance so I rode on and left him to his thoughts. What his thought were, I'm not sure, but I don't think he will make that mistake again.



Nice story dallasdon! That's one of those moments when you have to ask "why isn't life always like this?"

Lukejt
08-22-2008, 10:23 AM
I must admit, I turned into a squid when that guy was behind me revving, when the light turned green I stood the bike straight up by accident trying to get a good start. :)

Anywhooo, I think maybe I'm a bit jealous at all the attention the Harley guys get, even the posers who can't ride for **** and wear HD black leather flip flops. ;)

Bad-Tat
08-24-2008, 08:02 PM
I wave at all bikes unless I'm on the HD, then wave at all but Harley's! They mostly never wave back when not on the HD so don't wave when on it. 'course they think there is something strange about a Neon Green AST coat on a Harley!!

thesmithiz
08-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Ok take a breath and stop, think and say "who cares" you are out riding does the wave really matter or wreck your day? I sure hope not, at the end of the day aren't we just riding for our selves no matter who waves? I am sure at times I am in the didn't wave back crowd because I was just enjoying the ride. HD, cruiser, squid etc we are all doing something we enjoy that probably 80% of the population would get.

leshall
08-25-2008, 08:30 AM
I personally usually don't bother waving - I'll nod my head in their direction. If I'm out in the back of beyond I'll wave because it's usually like minded riders on the road.

Here in Dallas you can ride around all day and see maybe a dozen other bikers - tops. Especially in the middle of summer or winter when you might be the only one.

I have two beefs with cruiser riders. The first is their exhaust noise. To me it's anti-social, pure and simple. My other beef is the rise in my insurance rates commensurate with the increased popularity of biking. I know all bikers aren't hooligans or idiots or even cruiser riders, but I can't help feeling that the injuries and wrecks that are presumably responsible for the rate increases are the result of lack of protection and lack of experience.

If my only biking experience was a couple of hours every weekend I would be a piss poor rider. It staggers me that in Texas anyone over the age of 18 can go in a dealership and ride out with a lethal weapon under their arse - and I'm not talking about that bean burrito they had for breakfast. No MC license? No problem.

Les, DFW

Bear on a bicycle
08-25-2008, 03:42 PM
I personally usually don't bother waving - I'll nod my head in their direction. If I'm out in the back of beyond I'll wave because it's usually like minded riders on the road.

Here in Dallas you can ride around all day and see maybe a dozen other bikers - tops. Especially in the middle of summer or winter when you might be the only one.

I have two beefs with cruiser riders. The first is their exhaust noise. To me it's anti-social, pure and simple. My other beef is the rise in my insurance rates commensurate with the increased popularity of biking. I know all bikers aren't hooligans or idiots or even cruiser riders, but I can't help feeling that the injuries and wrecks that are presumably responsible for the rate increases are the result of lack of protection and lack of experience.

If my only biking experience was a couple of hours every weekend I would be a piss poor rider. It staggers me that in Texas anyone over the age of 18 can go in a dealership and ride out with a lethal weapon under their arse - and I'm not talking about that bean burrito they had for breakfast. No MC license? No problem.

Les, DFW


How do you expect a person to get experience if they can't buy a bike & ride?

As for lack of experience, everybody's gotta start somewhere...

:thumb: :D

leshall
08-25-2008, 03:56 PM
How do you expect a person to get experience if they can't buy a bike & ride?

As for lack of experience, everybody's gotta start somewhere...

:thumb: :D

Of course - but letting them loose on powerful bikes without any training at all.

Maybe we should have something like Europe where you have to start on something under 500cc, show your proficiency by taking a test then be allowed to move on up. Probably a bit too nanny-state for the USA!

Les, DFW

Bear on a bicycle
08-25-2008, 04:54 PM
Of course - but letting them loose on powerful bikes without any training at all.

Maybe we should have something like Europe where you have to start on something under 500cc, show your proficiency by taking a test then be allowed to move on up. Probably a bit too nanny-state for the USA!

Les, DFW

It is for me. I feel we're governed too much as it is. People need to be able to make choices for themselves. We should be allowed to assess the risks and make the decision ourselves.

Not every person that buys a liter class bike as their first bike is gonna have trouble handling it. In fact, I would bet that most people buy what they feel confident with.

Should we do the same with cars? Make your first car a 4 cyl with less than a 2 liter motor? I just don't think you're giving people enough credit to learn on their own.


I get the feeling you're an ATGATT & a pro helmet law guy. :D

Lukejt
08-25-2008, 05:00 PM
My first bike, FZ1. :)


I'm still here.....

leshall
08-25-2008, 05:29 PM
What bothers me I guess is my (maybe erroneous) perception of insurance rates going thru the roof because of inexperienced riders wrecking.

I also hate the fact that when you tell somebody you enjoy riding bikes they immediately say HD and think of loud pipes and leather vests. Unfortunately a great deal of the public's perception of bikers is based on the cruiser crowd. It's almost impossible explaining that you are different!

It's like when you say you are into guns - people think of hunting, right wing nuts and so on. It's hard for them to reconcile guns with Liberals.

I personally wear a helmet most of the time, but sometimes don't and love that freedom. ATGATT is impossible in Dallas as far as I am concerned but I do always wear gloves & eye protection and 90% of the time a helmet.

I suppose we're all poseurs in some way. I know I am. I wear the gear, going to get all the farkles so I look like I'm heading for the Darien Gap but in fact I'm off to Target for shampoo.

I just try and keep it quiet, discrete and wear pants with bottoms. :confused:

Les

RedRiguez
08-25-2008, 06:34 PM
Here in Oregon I would say its a mixed bag on getting a wave from HD riders.
I would say probably 50% here are what I call Yuppies on Harly's its quite comical. They have all the HD garb on, then wont wave. They have them selves believing that we all envy them. Think again HD rider We just laugh at you and your loud pipes and go about our buisiness. Those type of riders that think they impress you they go by and they are still dragging thier feed all the way through the intersection taking off. Ya Im impressed.

Personally I ride cause love the freedom and the feel..

motorbum
08-25-2008, 07:33 PM
The strange thing here where I live, some do wave. Some don't. I know some yuppies who have Hardley's and they know me. They don't however know me on the my "V". They don't wave at me, so I make it a point to let them know who I am and there like, "when did you get that, why didn't you get a Hardley?" We pass on on some pokes and prods and we're on our way. The really wierd thing that I have noticed, black people wave no matter what. They may be on the Harley, crotch rocket, scooter, bike. They all wave. Just an observation, not necessarily mean't to open up or start a social experiment.

miguelito
08-25-2008, 08:29 PM
Just got back from a 120 Mile ride with my bi#ch, I mean my girlfriend, (whew! almost thought I was a Hardly rider myself for a moment there!). :D While stopped for a bite to eat in Ruidoso, NM, I had a guy come over from his Fat-boy and ask about the Versys. Said he had never seen one to date, and was thinking of getting one. Pretty cool! :thumb: As I said in my first post in this thread, the Harley guys almost always wave here in Southern NM. Must be the water... ;)
Here's a link to an article in Rider magazine, ("great rides") which covers some of what we rode today: http://www.ridermagazine.com/output.cfm?id=1695493

CheesyRider
09-14-2008, 08:24 PM
I love motorcycles, and I love riding. Like many of you, what first drew me to bikes was not just the experience of riding, but the feeling that I'd become part of a special community - a brotherhood, really. Nothing calms me more than a long ride down the interstate, waving to the members of my beloved clan...

...Except when I pass Harley guys. I hate Harley guys. Hate, hate, hate. When they pass me on the highway, you know what I do? I don't wave. With their little tassel handlebars and the studded luggage and the half helmets - God, they drive me crazy.

You know who else I hate? BMW guys. Oh, do I hate those guys. I don't wave at them either. They think they're so great, sitting all upright, with their 180 degree German engines. God, I hate them.

They're almost as bad as those old bastards on their touring motorcycles. You know what I call those bikes? "Two wheeled couches!" Get it? Because they're so big. They drive around like they have got all day. Appreciate the scenery somewhere else, Grandpa.

Oh, and Ducati guys - I don't wave at them either. Why don't they spend a little more money on their bikes? "You can have it in any color as long as it is red." Aren't you cool! Like they even know what a Desmo-whatever engine is, anyway. Try finding the battery, you Italian-wannabe racers! I never, ever wave at those guys.

Suzuki guys aren't much better, which is why I never wave at them, either. God forbid they should ever wear any safety gear. They make me so mad. Sometimes they'll speed by and look over at me and you know what I do? I don't wave. I just keep going.

Please, don't get me started on Kawasaki guys. Ninjas? What are you, twelve years old? I never wave at Kawasaki guys.

I ride a Honda. I'll wave at Honda guys, but, even then, I'll never wave at a guy in full leathers. Never, never, never. Yeah, like you're going to get your knee down on the New York Thruway. Nice crotch, by the way. Guys in full leathers will never get a wave from me, and, by the way, neither will the guys in two piece leathers. And I'll tell you who else I'm not waving at - those guys with the helmets with loud paint jobs. Four pounds of paint on a two pound helmet - like I'm going to wave back at that! I'll also never wave at someone with a mirrored visor. Or helmet stickers. Or racing gloves. Or hiking boots.

To me, motorcycling is like a family, a close knit brotherhood of people who ride Hondas, wear jeans and a leather jacket (not Vanson) with regular gloves and a solid color helmet with a clear visor, no stickers, no racing gloves and regular boots (not Timberlands). And isn't that what really makes The Brotherhood of the Road so special?

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I don't know where the above originated from, but I always think of it when someone brings up waving.

Lukejt
09-14-2008, 08:30 PM
Whatever.

I bought a bike for the thrill of it, not to join some click. I wave to everybody. I just got fed up at being snubbed by snobbish Harley riders one day so I typed this up. A couple weeks ago I hooked on to the back of a train of cruisers riding through the mountains. Not once, but many times some asshole on a Harley would hold his hand out for the entire train of bikes in front of me, and purposefully pull the hand back and snub me. Left me hangin. It's that kind of childish bull**** that bothers me about certain riders.

If I pass you on the road, chances are I'll wave. Hopefully you'll wave back. Nuff said.

Luke

Lukejt
09-14-2008, 08:36 PM
Another thing, a buddy and I did some work to his 900RR a month or so ago. He was having some fuel issues and stalled out on I 695. We were there for about a half hour before we got the bike going again. A few sport bike riders and even a guy in a van stopped to help out. All the Harley riders blew right on by. It's more of a fashion statement for a lot of those guys. They think they get it, but they don't.

I ride every chance I get. Not to the bar either. I'm talking dirt bikes, dual sports, and now my Versys.

cheezebox
09-14-2008, 09:02 PM
I rode a Harley for 17 years, still have it, a Vespa for 30 still have it, and a GS Adventure for 2, just sold it. Good ridance.

I live in Maine. I usually wave to everyone. Some hardcore Harley guys wont wave at all to other Harleys. It's a crap shoot. Most don't wave to to the Vespa, but then again I get thumbs up from guys in trucks. I went from Maine to Montana on the GSA and sometimes you get waves from across the interstate from ALL kinds that are making the trip.
I hope to be waving from a Versys soon.

The GSA is like riding a locomotive, in case you think you are missing something. Overkill, It's a Hummer, but they all wave.

The Versys seems like manageable FUN, pure and simple.

bigpun2216
09-14-2008, 09:25 PM
i own a harley, a vrod night rod special, i think we all need to take into consideration that for the most part all that is really on the road is harleys. dont just judge because MOST people dont wave on harleys. Besides if they dont wave back is it really that big a deal, do you really take that to heart? If that is the case thats an entire different problem right there.

alphabetsoup2003
09-15-2008, 03:35 AM
see i just wave to everbody.. who gives a crap what kind of bike you are riding.. I even wave to the kid holding on for dear life on his little moped. (they never ever wave back :) ) everybody is doing exactley the same thing... Riding a motorcycle

Lukejt
09-15-2008, 07:23 AM
No big deal, I started this thread trying to be funny.....nothing against any one group of riders.

KUDZOO
09-15-2008, 10:50 AM
who started this waving.???.........what's the message.....i think it was the the HD guys waving to other HD guys......that's why if you ain't got a HD they don't wave back.....

Ocean
09-15-2008, 05:44 PM
http://www.viewfromthecloud.com/2006/08/secret-motorcycle-hand-greetings.html

Interesting observations on the wave. Still searching for something about the beginning of the wave. I have some books with old pictures in it showing the wave from the 70's. But seems like it was a bit different then. It was the peace sign straight up - none of this off to the side stuff. In my first year of riding a motorcycle gave me that old time straight up piece sign.

I have to admit on busy days with lots of motorcycles on the road - it's gets a bit tiring. Wave, wave, wave, oops not you, wave, wave, screw you, wave, wave, no helmet no wave, wave, wave, wave, nice scooter - wave guaranteed, wave, wave, wave, oh yeah you over on the other side of the highway sorry about that, wave, wave, wave.

erxray62
09-15-2008, 10:25 PM
I Have Three Bikes, 2008 Versys, 2007 Goldwing, And A 2003 Road King Classic. I Like Them All For Different Reasons.when Im Going To Travel I Get On My Wing And Hook My Escapade Trailer To It And Ride 3000 Miles In 5 Days.crusing Around Town I Get On My Road King And Feel The Thunder! And When I Want To Feel Like A Kid Again And Test My Riding Skills On The Twisties I Jump On The Versys.but You Guys Are Right When I Pass A Harley On My Goldwing I Might Get A Wave About 50 Or 60% Of The Time. Or On The Versys Maybe 20% Of The Time. I Just Love To Ride And Could Care Less What You Ride, I Wave To Everyone.i Just Enjoy Being On Two Wheels And Think That The People With The Attitudes About "what" You Ride Should Drop Them!!!

Darth Lefty
09-15-2008, 10:28 PM
who started this waving.???.........what's the message.....i think it was the the HD guys waving to other HD guys......that's why if you ain't got a HD they don't wave back.....
When you are in a car, everyone else in a car is your enemy. There are minor exceptions; you might get the WRX or Corvette or Mini wave if you have one too. But...

On a motorcycle, everyone else on a motorcycle is your friend. So wave your brains out!

neil_asheville
09-15-2008, 11:00 PM
You know who else I hate?....

Cheesy...you're cracking me up, Man! That's good stuff there.

/neil

portmanteau
09-16-2008, 09:47 AM
I vote for revving any engine. Harley's sound great and so do dirt bikes, super bikes, f1 cars, hot rods, etc... Just something about the sound that is nice to me.
When we were kids we'd sit behind a wall and listen to cars go by and guess what they were by how they sounded.

versysred
09-16-2008, 07:00 PM
The fact is that I grew up with BMW's I love them they IMO are the best bikes you can buy. As for waving I will wave to everyone but I have started not to wave to HD they seem to never wave back. The fact is that its not about the look it's about the ride. Having fun with other people like in my case my dad. I love riding and for being 20 years old I dont do the things "normal 20 years old do" Like wheelies speeding, passing at high rate of speeds. It's just not me sure once in a while I will get on my bike harder than usualy but not everyday. Enjoy the ride and have fun.