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: Super Tenere....


jcstratt
09-01-2010, 08:17 PM
...is apparently coming to the US in 2012! That's great news! Hopefully, someday we will break out of this craptastic cruiser/superbike/mx only market that we've gotten ourselves into.

Super Tenere coming to visit! (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/647/7837/Motorcycle-Article/2012-Yamaha-Super-Tenere-First-Look.aspx)

darcym
09-01-2010, 08:40 PM
It looks like a very cool bike, definitely competition for the BMW GS and KTM Adventures out there. Still very tall, 33" with the Low Seat option.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/651/0/home.aspx

hacktracker
09-01-2010, 08:46 PM
Reminds me of exactly what I want, a Versys with an extra 40 horsepower.

darcym
09-01-2010, 09:21 PM
I've heard very off road capable, too.

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/20202/2983357830038356115S425x425Q85.jpg

lokto7
09-01-2010, 10:09 PM
How to pronounce this Tenere?

jcstratt
09-01-2010, 10:13 PM
It's pronounced "thir teen k"....and it's pre order only :-( but hey, at least it will be available!

Bear on a bicycle
09-01-2010, 10:18 PM
It's pronounced "thir teen k"....and it's pre order only :-( but hey, at least it will be available!


:funnypost:

Tex Vs
09-01-2010, 11:32 PM
It's pronounced "thir teen k"....and it's pre order only :-( but hey, at least it will be available!

:eek: Actually more like fif teen or six teen k - out the door, and I doubt Yamaha will come off of that price very much. Tooo rich for my blood! :thumbdown:

kiwi 41
09-01-2010, 11:39 PM
To rich for my blood to because your talking US dollars.

Fastoman
09-02-2010, 12:25 AM
Another 2011 issue from Yamaha-FZ8-looks more like 2010 V.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/649/7833/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Yamaha-FZ8-First-Look.aspx

:cheers:

lokto7
09-02-2010, 04:33 AM
It's pronounced "thir teen k"....and it's pre order only :-( but hey, at least it will be available!

if that's ttk w/ tax incl. in Hong Kong I will buy :D

Lours_Polaire
09-02-2010, 08:22 AM
How to pronounce this Tenere?

Tay - Nay - Ray



LOP

bill_milstead
09-02-2010, 08:54 AM
Thanks LOP

Skeezix
09-02-2010, 11:55 AM
2012 Tenere in the USA? I'm there duuuuuude! When do we know what colors the 2011 Versys will get?

dallasdon
09-02-2010, 12:24 PM
It's about time that Kawasaki bumped the Versys up to 800-850 cc. They would sell with a waiting list. I'd be the first in line. I love the V, but a tad more power would be great.

potus2012
09-02-2010, 12:47 PM
I guess I'm in the minority on this one, but I've never found my V to be lacking in power that I needed. If I really wanted more though, I think Ducati and Triumph both have better options than the $14K Yamaha. Seems to me like the 40 extra ponies isn't worth the cost of an extra 150 lbs.
For that price I'd just as soon get 2 Versys and make one a track bike. Betcha the track time would be worth a whole lot more than 40 HP when it comes to faster speeds on twisty mountain roads.

STeelybeast
09-02-2010, 03:15 PM
I guess I'm in the minority on this one, but I've never found my V to be lacking in power that I needed. If I really wanted more though, I think Ducati and Triumph both have better options than the $14K Yamaha. Seems to me like the 40 extra ponies isn't worth the cost of an extra 150 lbs.
For that price I'd just as soon get 2 Versys and make one a track bike. Betcha the track time would be worth a whole lot more than 40 HP when it comes to faster speeds on twisty mountain roads.

I agree with you. It's a nice looking bike but at double the price of a *V*, I could not justify the cost. Of course I would have a hard time taking something that expensive off road myself, but that's just me :)

It seems with a little reworking, you can turn the *V* into a bike that will do most anything you need for commuting or off roading, and not break the bank doing it. :thumb:

David

Bear on a bicycle
09-02-2010, 04:38 PM
I guess I'm in the minority on this one, but I've never found my V to be lacking in power that I needed. If I really wanted more though, I think Ducati and Triumph both have better options than the $14K Yamaha. Seems to me like the 40 extra ponies isn't worth the cost of an extra 150 lbs.
For that price I'd just as soon get 2 Versys and make one a track bike. Betcha the track time would be worth a whole lot more than 40 HP when it comes to faster speeds on twisty mountain roads.


I'm with you, I like the power. It seems to be in the right place, right at my throttle hand when I'm mid turn & cranking it!

:D


But seriously, I agree, the power is good.

:thumb:

JakeSabre
09-02-2010, 05:07 PM
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/090110top1-730x548.jpg

hacktracker
09-02-2010, 05:41 PM
2012 Tenere in the USA? I'm there duuuuuude! When do we know what colors the 2011 Versys will get?

Black and Blue, checkout the Yamaha website for pics.

hacktracker
09-02-2010, 05:45 PM
I guess I'm in the minority on this one, but I've never found my V to be lacking in power that I needed. If I really wanted more though, I think Ducati and Triumph both have better options than the $14K Yamaha. Seems to me like the 40 extra ponies isn't worth the cost of an extra 150 lbs.
For that price I'd just as soon get 2 Versys and make one a track bike. Betcha the track time would be worth a whole lot more than 40 HP when it comes to faster speeds on twisty mountain roads.

A Versys doesn't make a great track bike, but your point is taken. Lots of coin for the Tenere, but I bet the torque is awesome!

The good news is the bike will probably be sold normally in a year or two. Forget the sign-up to pay full MSRP + fees sight unseen.

DaveC
09-02-2010, 05:50 PM
Another 2011 issue from Yamaha-FZ8-looks more like 2010 V.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/649/7833/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Yamaha-FZ8-First-Look.aspx

:cheers:

Looks closer to the ER6N to my eye. I test rode a FZ6 at a demo ride, and found it too buzzy...my hand started tingling 10 minutes into the ride. I wouldn't expect the FZ8 to be any better.

Dave

spklbuk
09-02-2010, 08:13 PM
:eek: Actually more like fif teen or six teen k - out the door, and I doubt Yamaha will come off of that price very much. Tooo rich for my blood! :thumbdown:

Are you sure about that? Direct quote from an FJR forum posting today..."Just got word from D & H cycle $11,999 OTD with $1,000 deposit."

spklbuk
09-02-2010, 08:23 PM
Video of Tenere offroad: clicky (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595933&page=12) scroll down to bottom of page

hacktracker
09-02-2010, 08:36 PM
Are you sure about that? Direct quote from an FJR forum posting today..."Just got word from D & H cycle $11,999 OTD with $1,000 deposit."

The Yamaha USA site shows $13,900. Given the price, I'm sure there is a healthy margin, so perhaps they're just doing a deal.

kilofox
09-02-2010, 09:16 PM
Spoked Wheels?????

Madone1
09-03-2010, 12:11 AM
I've looked at this one a few times, and to me, it looks like a great bike for its intended purpose. However, if I wanted to do the type of riding shown in the video, I would probably get a 'Strom. I'm not saying the V can't do, I just don't have mine setup to do hardcore offroading. I know it could do it if I changed tires, etc.. but that just isn't me. My V is the ultimate urban assult vehicle, not a dual purpose machine like the Tenre. Seems like a nice bike, but pricey.

djg
09-03-2010, 05:44 AM
The Yamaha USA site shows $13,900. Given the price, I'm sure there is a healthy margin, so perhaps they're just doing a deal.

Check out the S10 thread at advrider, people in other countries are envious of that price. This is the bike I was looking at when I came to my senses and found a deal on a Versys.

Kind of a super TDM850, which I also have.

Tex Vs
09-03-2010, 08:27 AM
Check out the S10 thread at advrider, people in other countries are envious of that price. This is the bike I was looking at when I came to my senses and found a deal on a Versys.

Kind of a super TDM850, which I also have.


:dgi: Did a search for S10 on advrider, this is what I got:

D'oh... Our sucky search engine couldn't handle that term. Got Google (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163900)?

How about a linky? :thanx:

mailman wes
09-03-2010, 09:00 AM
i quess spoked wheels are the way to go for off road abuse but at least they laced them up right to use tubeless tires, on another forum i was told of OTD prices of $12,499 seems like a great bike. looks like good competition to bmw R1200GS. I saw a sports touring shootout review where they took a R1200gs along as a extra bike and it ended up the reviewers liked it more than the bikes they were reviewing(this was on asphalt)

camaroz1985
09-03-2010, 09:05 AM
The problem I see is the Multistrada is only $1000 more. They might be in slightly different focuses, but I think a lot of people will cross shop them (or they should).

Ivan V
09-03-2010, 09:15 AM
Here is a guy that will sell it to you for 12,5k $

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=616082


Sure you can get 3 different bikes for that money but there is a lot of bike in that Super Tenere.

stlee29
09-03-2010, 09:25 AM
The 3 bikes challenging the adventure touring are:

BMW 1200 gs with Boxer engine - 30 years old now
Ducati Multistrada with 90 degree V Twin - 192 kg dry
Super Tenere with parallel twin (same as the V) - 261 kg wet

I ridden BM for a while but I like the Tenere's looks. Pity it does come with adjustable suspension on the fly like the other two.

Hope the Tenere will pull Yamaha out of her financial crunch.

VerstehenZee
09-03-2010, 10:17 AM
Good comments on this bike!

My take.

If comparing a V to a Tenere, there is little to say. Some can't reconcile twice the price and that's fine, but when you add traction control, ABS, UBS, 100+ horsepower, the differences become clear. Many here(USA) wish for ABS, some wish for more power, on-off road capability, two up comfort, most laud the all-round abilities of the V, but wish it were a little more specific to their needs. Truthfully, the Tenere is a little more robust in just about every category than the V.

Compare the Tenere to a 1200GS or a Multistrada and things tighten up a bit.

The 'Strada is a technological gem, just not as much at the entry price, you need to get the S to get all the goodies. If ones take this route, the drug is the "S" with all the extras, so $20K it is. Lightest, most powerful, fastest, sexiest of the bunch. Service and parts....expensive/elusive. Plus the social implications of having a Ducati are a bit much for me and who really "wants" to have to train the new 25 year old wife you'll attract (Hmmmmm..:D)

The BMW is the tractor of the lot. Decent power, focused a little more on off-road, but good on highway, as well. Tons of aftermarket, but who would dare be seen with ANY farkle that didn't wear the blue and white propeller. Expensive to maintain, but still the only bike to compete with the Tenere. Again, could you resist putting out extra cash for the GSA? As with the Duc, palling up with the Teutonic elite is something that repels me a little (plus I drive Jeeps).

The Tenere seems to make more sense in a lot of ways. While the price is a little steep, you get a fair amount of extras, but better yet is a Yamaha motor, which would be the main reason I'd consider one. Better choice, in my opinion and less expensive to maintain. Maybe a little heavy, big deal. No ride reports to speak of, but my guess is that it also is a pretty good all-rounder. No social games connected with a Yamaha, so that's a BIG plus, as well.

What I find intriguing is the Yamaha marketing plan for the bike. They get you to put $500 down and then charge full ticket in May, based upon "limited" supply. My guess is that if they get 5000 deposits, they will ship 5000 bikes, regardless of the tease. It would be stupid if they didn't, but if you wanted one really bad, you might miss your chance. Naah, they would do that...would they?

It's all in what you think is important. I like my V a lot and it's fun ALL the time, but I come from the dirt and like to go back a little once in a while..... 100HP for touring would definitely be nice,too. Maybe I'll re-think that 'Strada after all.

V-Zee

flying_hun
09-03-2010, 12:09 PM
The 3 bikes challenging the adventure touring are:

BMW 1200 gs with Boxer engine - 30 years old now
Ducati Multistrada with 90 degree V Twin - 192 kg dry
Super Tenere with parallel twin (same as the V) - 261 kg wet

I ridden BM for a while but I like the Tenere's looks. Pity it does come with adjustable suspension on the fly like the other two.

Hope the Tenere will pull Yamaha out of her financial crunch.

How is the boxer 30 years old? I thought the oilhead came out in something like 1992 or 1993. The hexhead (or whatever they call it) came out 05 or 06. And for 10 it becomes an OHC head. Based on those dates it's either brand new, 5 years old, 17 years old, or if we're going back to when the boxer was introduced by BMW (1923), 87 years old. I don't come up with 30 though.

Back on topic, I'm sure some folks will buy it and love it, and I can't really judge them. My choices in that segment are at least as odd - I really love the Stelvio. :eek:

spklbuk
09-03-2010, 03:32 PM
One of several Adv Rider threads about the Tenere (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595933)





GSA - single sided swing arm


Tenere - double sided swing arm


Which would you rather rely on when riding a dirt connector in the middle of nowhere?



Time for me to seriously contemplate whether both my FJR and Versys may be gone come spring.

jcstratt
09-03-2010, 06:08 PM
It's about time that Kawasaki bumped the Versys up to 800-850 cc. They would sell with a waiting list. I'd be the first in line. I love the V, but a tad more power would be great.

This is exactly where I'm at. I like the bike for what it is, but it lacks in the power dept. The same bike with 800-900cc and 20hp more would be great. It would add a little weight, but not much. If there was a bigger cc version, I'd still keep the 650 and convert it to full dirt.


Tay Nay Ray

LOL! I'm pretty sure I talked to a chick with that name at Geico.

dwr302
09-03-2010, 09:27 PM
A nice 100 hp bike similar to the V and not much heavier is available in the Triump Tiger 1050. No waiting. But a little pricey also.

jcstratt
09-03-2010, 09:44 PM
But a little pricey also.

True that. I forgot to mention one thing in my previous post. TWIN! I love twins. Parallels or V's. Love 'em. I can't stand the sound of a 4 cylinder. The triples sound a bit different, but they're not my fave either. If I were to spend my money a Triumph, it would be a street triple.

stlee29
09-04-2010, 05:21 AM
How is the boxer 30 years old? I thought the oilhead came out in something like 1992 or 1993. The hexhead (or whatever they call it) came out 05 or 06. And for 10 it becomes an OHC head. Based on those dates it's either brand new, 5 years old, 17 years old, or if we're going back to when the boxer was introduced by BMW (1923), 87 years old. I don't come up with 30 though.

Correction, GS family.
Hey, was riding the r100gs PD and the R1100 gs. R1200 just too damm expensive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_GS . Thanks, Flying Hun.

lokto7
09-04-2010, 10:27 PM
The 3 bikes challenging the adventure touring are:

BMW 1200 gs with Boxer engine - 30 years old now
Ducati Multistrada with 90 degree V Twin - 192 kg dry
Super Tenere with parallel twin (same as the V) - 261 kg wet

I ridden BM for a while but I like the Tenere's looks. Pity it does come with adjustable suspension on the fly like the other two.

Hope the Tenere will pull Yamaha out of her financial crunch.OMG i thought the V is just 220kg wet....

stlee29
09-05-2010, 02:59 AM
Super Tenere with parallel twin (same as the V) - 261 kg wet

Lokto7, Not the weight, the engine configuration. :D

Austin city limits
09-05-2010, 07:13 AM
Me???

My Opinion???

You would have to be INSANE,,, to put $500 down on a bike,,, wait 9 months for it to show up!!! INSANE I SAY!!!:guilty:

I can honestly say,,, I now have 9 months to slowly get "The Lovely Cindy" ready for this bike to be added to my shop... If your guessing if I told TLC I bought a bike yet??? Hey,,, I did not "Buy' a bike yet so,,, no,,, no I have not... :topsecret:

Will I keep the Versys too??? Yes I will,,, I sure hope...

VerstehenZee
09-09-2010, 12:29 AM
Good news for me and better news for all my fans out there!!!

I dropped for a Super Tenere out of Longview TX at $12,500 OTD. The Raven Black one.

You guys have only until May to both tolerate and abuse me, at which time, I'll sell the V...........I'll miss you all......... especially when I leave you in the dust figuratively and literally. Counting the days.

V-Zee

freewheeler
09-09-2010, 06:39 AM
I dropped for a Super Tenere out of Longview TX at $21,500 OTD. The Raven Black one. V-Zee

Must be a premium on the black one ...!!!

kiwi 41
09-09-2010, 07:11 AM
Good news for me and better news for all my fans out there!!!

I dropped for a Super Tenere out of Longview TX at $21,500 OTD. The Raven Black one.

You guys have only until May to both tolerate and abuse me, at which time, I'll sell the V...........I'll miss you all......... especially when I leave you in the dust figuratively and literally. Counting the days.

V-Zee

Will certainly miss your input when that happens V-Zee all the best with the new horse

potus2012
09-09-2010, 07:59 AM
Good news for me and better news for all my fans out there!!!

I dropped for a Super Tenere out of Longview TX at $21,500 OTD. The Raven Black one.

You guys have only until May to both tolerate and abuse me, at which time, I'll sell the V...........I'll miss you all......... especially when I leave you in the dust figuratively and literally. Counting the days.

V-Zee

Holy Crap. $21K+ for a bloated bike you have to get on a waiting list for? Is Yamaha the new Harley?

Ivan V
09-09-2010, 08:02 AM
What's with the 21,5K, VerstehenZee?? :eek:

Did you get one in each color?

spklbuk
09-10-2010, 04:15 PM
21.5K...give D & H Cycle in Cullman, AL a shout and ask them about the same bike. I think you will like what they have to say.

invisabiker
09-10-2010, 04:40 PM
i just read the latest Bike magazine. they have a comparison of the Super Tenere, GS and the Multistrada. strange they didn't seem to like the Super Tenere that much. good off road but the GS and the Multistrada were better on the road. also the GS was faster with about 10 more horsepower.

VerstehenZee
09-11-2010, 11:04 AM
Must be a premium on the black one ...!!!

My right hand is OK on the bike, but functions poorly on the keyboard. I transposed the 1 and 2. I actually got bike for $12,500 OTD

I read about all that's available on the ADVRider forum from my friends down under. The Aussies and Kiwi's seem to be well suited for this type of bike, as am I, and I trust their input. Many complaints seem to arise here in the states about the flat torque curve and seeming lack of punch (tough to wheelie? Silly Americans). Those who have ridden it "in the bikes natural state" like the predictability of such level power delivery, particularly off road, and say the bike pulls strong and steady. Some find issue with the manner the Unified Braking System works, again, if you think about it, it actually makes sense off-road in that you have the option for better control in the dirt. Combine all of that with a bike I can take my wife out on comfortably on the road and it's good enough for me.

I realize it may seem that I'm justifying my purchase of something that, quite frankly, is a little pricey. When I get it, it won't be a garage or street queen. I plan to farkle a bit where needed and add a set of Anakee T's (never had 'em, so opinions are welcome), bag it up with Caribou's, and head for the hills

I just hope I'm right and enjoy it as much as I anticipate. I think I will. My opinion is that in light of the way Yamaha is marketing the bike in a limited manner, it will retain good resale if I'm wrong.

Thanks for the well wishes Kiwi. I hope to keep the V, (eight months, at least) as I love it riding alone and as fast as this old brain can handle.

V-Zee

JakeSabre
09-19-2010, 09:47 AM
I agree with you. It's a nice looking bike but at double the price of a *V*, I could not justify the cost.
David

Yamaha has identified those that have a need to pay $14000 for a dual-sport motorcycle and they engineered a bike to get the $14k, most of those who buy this bike can't ride worth a damn anyway.....

JakeSabre
09-19-2010, 10:02 AM
Me???

My Opinion???

You would have to be INSANE,,, to put $500 down on a bike,,, wait 9 months for it to show up!!! INSANE I SAY!!!:guilty:
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