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: Joe Rocket Survivor one-piece


douglasgraham
08-20-2010, 04:03 PM
Anybody have this suit? Looking to replace my Belstaff suit that is just worn out. The bike is my main transportation for getting to work so I need something good. I missed 10 days last year because of ice if that tells you how much the suit will be used.

Roadstergal
08-20-2010, 04:35 PM
No, but I've been... less than impressed with the quality of the Joe Rocket gear I've had in the past.

I had an Alpinestars Drystar suit, and it was OK, but the Roadcrafter I have is better - sturdier, better armor, more pockets. If you're riding in cold and wet, I recommend it.

djg
08-20-2010, 05:14 PM
newenough.com has a lot of pictures of this suit, it doesn't look bad, and you have to email them to get their price, so it probably is discounted.

It is made of the mysterious "rock tex", a trade name for ?

I'm guessing it is coated nylon, since it is waterproof.

I got a used Roadcrafter on ebay for 500 dollars, you might want to look there, a Roadcrafter has American support for repairs, the Survivor is one crash throwaway protection. Depends on your budget, I guess.

Look at Motoport stuff, too.

Edit: The Roadcrafter does get pretty hot in hot humid weather, that JR suit does have a lot of ventilation.

bigaussie
08-21-2010, 12:41 AM
No, but I've been... less than impressed with the quality of the Joe Rocket gear I've had in the past.

+1 I have their over trousers and I would like to upgrade at some point

pegrider
08-21-2010, 06:54 AM
Check out the Phantom at Olympia Motosports. Waterproof, one-piece, good ventilation capabilities.
The liner is somewhat of a pain, so you might try to get a good fit without the liner, and just layer underneath. CE-rated armor.
Just my $.02

marc11
08-21-2010, 08:16 AM
Anybody have this suit? Looking to replace my Belstaff suit that is just worn out. The bike is my main transportation for getting to work so I need something good. I missed 10 days last year because of ice if that tells you how much the suit will be used.

You do know there "ain't" no suit in the world that will give any bike traction on ice right? (I am sure you do) If the issue is cold, you would be better off investing in heated gloves and jacket to wear under your current gear, this will keep you far warmer in far lower temps.

For me, once they start salting the roads and there is a chance for black ice in the AM, usually once the temps dip below 25 I pack it in and wait for spring. Last year I rode until December 6th here, we had a snow storm on December 7th.

douglasgraham
08-22-2010, 06:24 AM
Been riding through snow and ice season for over 20 years so yes I get the whole black ice thing. Yes I have heated clothes anybody that rides in cold weather for any length of time gets heated gear, grips, jacket gloves, etc., etc. What I need is the wind break and water proof gear as I use heated under garments to layer and on really cold days you have the magic button. Not really concerned about the hot weather I wear perforated leather during the hot season. If it rains the rain suit is always in the side box. Thanks for all the helpful answers and I agree Joe Rocket leaves a lot to be desired hence the questions about the suit. I have bought many things from them and own only one! I have also checked a ton of sites looking for reviews and it seems to have tanked in sales because nobody has one to review. The Roadcrafter sounds like the ticket and they have been around for awhile now all I have to do is decide if I want a one or a two-piece suit. I have always used the 2 piece but it’s a pain in the ass at the train station in the morning getting changed.

Carbo
08-22-2010, 07:36 AM
Does the Roadcrafter (or any of them) pack up small enough for a 41L side case? Tourmaster also makes one and they're products are usually good value.

marc11
08-22-2010, 07:39 AM
It depends on the armor, without armor it will. I packed my Highlander suit which was bulkier than my friends Roadcrafter inside my E21 side case, but I had to take the armor out.

jcctx
08-22-2010, 09:28 AM
Can't say about the current JR stuff but the "Ballistic" jacket I have had for 8 years is of excellent quality. Got it from New Enough.

twowheels
08-22-2010, 10:04 AM
Anybody have this suit? Looking to replace my Belstaff suit that is just worn out. The bike is my main transportation for getting to work so I need something good. I missed 10 days last year because of ice if that tells you how much the suit will be used.

Have a look at the Olympia Phantom. I have the AST which is basically the top half of their Phantom one piece. It has Fantastic venting ability. Comfortable to 80F and usable to 90F as long as you are moving to force air into the sleeve and chest vents. Comfortable down to 32F with a sweater under it and liner installed. Also they use breathable waterproofing and 2000 denier Dupont Cordura on the strike points like the arms, seat, knees, etc. and 500 denier on the rest. Same material Aerostitch RoadCrafter and other high end textile gear uses. Dupont Cordura is much more abrasion resistant than the RockTex stuff Joe Rocket uses. The CE armor is excellent quality too, except for the back protector which is minimal, which seems to be the norm in most gear.

http://www.olympiamotosports.com/phantom/phantom.htm

Having owned JR gear (Alter Ego) can't say I am really a fan of their quality. IMHO Olympia make the best textile gear for the $$ although they are usually slightly more expensive than Tourmaster, JR, or FirstGear. RevIt make great gear too but are a lot more expensive for similar performance and as such are not usually as good a value.

Red Herring
08-22-2010, 10:13 AM
+1 on giving the Olympia a shot. My AST jacket is FAR superior to my JR. My JR saw a lot of use, but wore out in ~ 2 years. The waterproof coating on the inside of the nylon started to break up.

Bicyclebob
08-22-2010, 12:43 PM
Have you looked at Aerostich (www.aerostich.com (http://www.aerostich.com/))? Gary (dbd34) has been using his for many thousands of miles on his current adventure and swears by it.

Jack425
08-22-2010, 12:53 PM
Have you looked at Aerostich (www.aerostich.com)? Gary (dbd34) has been using his for many thousands of miles on his current adventure and swears by it.

Just like Bob says... I have heard nothing but great things..

With respect, Bob.... here is the link. Aerostitch (http://www.aerostich.com/)

douglasgraham
08-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Well the aerostich is a known great product with a steep price tag but the olympia phantom looks really nice and has a much lower price point. I need to do some research but thanks to all for the helpful suggestions.

douglasgraham
09-16-2010, 06:57 PM
So after a ton of research and even more time spent in shops looking I decided as much as Im on the bike the aerostich roadcrafter one-piece was the only way to go. After trying everything everyone suggested when I tried the Aerostich on it was by far worth the extra money. I have to agree with those that posted here that the joe rocket gear is just sub standard. I have had a few of their garments and only have one that I use. The survivor suit was really hard to get into and the fit was never in the "just right" zone. Also the way the dam thing is put together I dont see how you could alter it for a good fit. Anyway thanks for all the helpful tips and with cold weather right around the corner I know Im not going to regret dropping the big bucks for a aerostich.

tenover
09-16-2010, 07:13 PM
Yup, the one piece Roadcrafter is all I wear, even to work here in San Diego (20 miles) and back. Now I feel naked getting on a bike without it. You're in and out of it in about 20 seconds flat and you can wear anything you want underneath it.

potus2012
09-16-2010, 07:36 PM
I have been riding with Joe Rocket gear for nearly 15 years. The Joe Rocket Ballistic stuff made in Canada years ago was pretty good stuff. My jacket has served me well for the last 14 years. I must admit it lost its water repellancy about 4 years ago though. When they moved production to Korea, quality of materials dropped. I wear my Korean perforated jacket regularly now, but have some misgivings about its performance if needed. Quality dropped even further when they moved production to China; I don't know that I'd trust their new gear at all. I have been eyeing an HJC made JR carbon helmet, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

I have a couple of buddies with Aerostitch suits, and have yet to hear a complaint. If you ride that often, it is probably worth the cost to buy one.

douglasgraham
09-20-2010, 06:36 PM
Got it, love it, best money I ever spent.

douglasgraham
09-27-2010, 08:23 AM
Well now......it rained hard this morning and I got soaked starting from my chest all the way down to the top of my blue jeans!! It took less then 15 min to get soaked so I turned around and grabbed my old Belstaff and went back out to make the train. I made it dry with my old 6 year old suit. Anybody ever have this happen to their aerostich suit? I looked at it when I got back home to make sure nothing was a miss and it was all sealed up and even if there had been a little opening it should have never gotten that wet. I'm so disappointed right now. Id say right now this suit is about the worst Ive ever seen for rain. Im going to call aerostich later today and see what they have to say. Im out a ton of money here I hope then can fix this or refund my money.

bigaussie
09-27-2010, 09:31 AM
Well now......it rained hard this morning and I got soaked starting from my chest all the way down to the top of my blue jeans!! <snip> Im going to call aerostich later today and see what they have to say. Im out a ton of money here I hope then can fix this or refund my money.


:(

I hope you get some satisfaction :goodluck:

spainy
09-27-2010, 09:45 AM
I too use the bike daily and it is my only form of transport. Taking off wet gear and storing is such a pain. The trousers I bought are waterproof everywhere except the crotch which has gotta be the worst place for water entry.

Without shelling out on another jacket also I wear a waterproof jacket over the top and leave it to that. Not the best but it seems that even the supposedly waterproof stuff doesnīt work. Just take a look at all the waterproof boots that dontīwork (mine for example - ok in a shower but thatīs not good enough when itīs bucketing down). I have now bought overboots and if needs be end up wearing waterproof trousers over the top of my waterproof trousers.

Then again I ainīt got the bigbucks to do anything about it.

I feel for you here.

douglasgraham
09-27-2010, 09:53 AM
Thanks man I dont have the big bucks either but for pete sake this thing is a joke. I have a 6 year old garment that does better then this 800 dollar suit"??? I would think it would at least keep me dry for half a day not just 5 min? Anyway waiting for the West Coast boys to wake so I can talk to someone. Maybe Im missing something here but I dont think so. I have found some information out there a day late and 870. dollars short that these suits are much less then water proof, there even even some guys here that have talked about it. Do a seacrh for leaking aerostich on this board. The thing that kills me is that I spent a bunch of time on this and never saw any of the bad info until today. Also I was bad mouthing Joe Rocket products and the JR pants got me to the station dry today when my new fancy suit didnt last to the first exit.

spainy
09-27-2010, 10:16 AM
870 bucks! I spent 24 euros on a fully waterproof overjacket which will not let any water in, thatīs the type of budget I am on :)

douglasgraham
09-27-2010, 03:08 PM
Yea tell me about it. I feel really really ripped off. Anyway the guys at aerostich are sending a new suit so I'll report back when I get it and I ride in the rain again.

WeekendWarrior
09-27-2010, 07:12 PM
Sorry I wish i seen this before. I have the Survivor suit. Ive been using it daily since December last year and I really like. it zips up kinda funky but it has all the padding and protective gear in the good spots!

I picked the suit up off ebay for 340

djg
09-28-2010, 07:52 AM
Do some research over at advrider forum. The Aerostich has some issues that can be dealt with wrt waterproofing. Nikwax is often mentioned. My used suit was washed and waterproofed before being shipped. It performed fine in a couple of wet rides.

douglasgraham
09-29-2010, 07:50 AM
Thanks djg but it was the zipper that seemed to leak at the top of the suit something nikwax wont fix. The suit itself was water proof. Heres what the good folks at aerostich had to say, "One of the most common reasons that the Roadcrafter leaks is if there is a bend in the material along the zipper while you are sitting/riding on the bike. That bend will pool up water and cause the water to soak through over a period of time. If straightening that out while riding doesn't provide a solution then you can try a seam sealer along the zipper. (See attached Owners Manual under Waterproofing)." So they have been really good so far and the new suit will arrive today. Then again for that kind of money I would expect nothing less. I really love the suit and want to give them a fair chance so I'm going to give them a chance here.

djg
09-29-2010, 03:19 PM
The one piece has an issue also at the crotch zipper area, if water pools on the seat it can leak there also. Advrider site has tons of threads on these subjects. Some people hate the thing.

douglasgraham
09-30-2010, 07:03 AM
New suit worked fine this a.m. and if its working fine today then its going to be OK for me. It dumped buckets and the only thing wet on me was my feet because I forgot to treat my boots. Ive calmed down but I think there are issues with some of these suits because there are people that love them and live in them year in and year out and then there are people that hate them. Which leads me to think that a small percentage of them have some defects in assembly. They took care of me and thats really all that matters.

FSM
10-08-2010, 11:22 AM
+2 with the Phantom suit by Olympia. I have the hi viz and it's an amazing suit.

F.

twowheels
10-08-2010, 04:56 PM
New suit worked fine this a.m. and if its working fine today then its going to be OK for me. It dumped buckets and the only thing wet on me was my feet because I forgot to treat my boots. Ive calmed down but I think there are issues with some of these suits because there are people that love them and live in them year in and year out and then there are people that hate them. Which leads me to think that a small percentage of them have some defects in assembly. They took care of me and thats really all that matters.

Just wondering, does this suit have any venting for hotter weather? What is it's temp range?

douglasgraham
10-13-2010, 10:59 AM
Just wondering, does this suit have any venting for hotter weather? What is it's temp range?

I just did a 800 mile trip and the weather was so cold in the morning I had to use electric jacket and gloves in the morning and high 80's in the afternoon. I had on tee shirt and shorts in the afternoon with the "pit zips" and the back pannel open and it was really nice. This is a great suit for 3/4's of the year. The temp range is pretty broad but THIS IS NOT a summer suit for say running into D.C. Ill keep it in the pannier for rain but during hot weather I ride in periffed leather jacket and jeans.