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post #21 of 42 (permalink) Old 11-14-2014, 08:43 AM
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no I went with a fresh 15t front and a 44t rear
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Thought this thread could use a revival.

All I have to say is "CENSORED"!!!!!!!!!

This is one of the many reasons I will never buy another Kawasaki. 120 ft-lbs? Really? This started to spin on my 27mm socket using a 3' 1/2" drive breaker bar. Using the method as described by others.

Had to order a new nut after the nut would not come off. Dealer wanted 2 hours to replace the nut, I did it in 45 minutes.

Stupid tight, when there is a safety built in.

Advice? Take it to the dealer and pay them for an hour.
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It's a piece of cake when you know what you're doing with proper tools.
As with anything, once it's done you are an expert. I feel like if I have to change another Versys' front sprocket I'm going to have to buy a replacement swingarm (wood through wheel).
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Impact Socket/ Deep Socket

Somewhere I have a post that makes it even easier, for now I will explain it, use the deep socket but jam a rag below and around the socket, like having someone hold it in place, have it in gear and move the rear wheel so that the tension is on the lower chain, place a piece of wood/ rubber, anything that will hold the tire in place. Do Not put a piece of wood between the swing arm and wheel, unless you want to replace the swing arm and chain at the same time .

And here is proof swingarm cracked
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FWIW - out of three Vs bought new, when I had to change the countershaft sprockets, the '08 was easy (Craftsman 1/2" air-impact wrench), the '09 was NOT (tried w/ an air-impact Ingersol Rand that can go to 500'/# on removal, then went to the Kawi shop who removed it for a case of beer), and a '15, which AGAIN was easy (the air-impact Ingersol Rand again).

Succeeding removals on all THREE were easy, as I torqued the nuts to the "factory recommended torque values"....
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Going back to the initial posting... He used his torque wrench as a breakover bar? With an extension pipe on it? Oookay...

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Somewhere I have a post that makes it even easier, for now I will explain it, use the deep socket but jam a rag below and around the socket, like having someone hold it in place, have it in gear and move the rear wheel so that the tension is on the lower chain, place a piece of wood/ rubber, anything that will hold the tire in place. Do Not put a piece of wood between the swing arm and wheel, unless you want to replace the swing arm and chain at the same time .

And here is proof swingarm cracked
You mean do not use a thin piece of steel? I use a padded length of wood that is large enough.
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You mean do not use a thin piece of steel? I use a padded length of wood that is large enough.
Pray tell why are you changing your sprocket so often, that you have made a special piece of padded wood specifically for this??
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Pray tell why are you changing your sprocket so often, that you have made a special piece of padded wood specifically for this??
LOL! I replaced my countershaft sprocket twice, when I simply wrapped a wood stud of the right dimensions with an old blanket.
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Well it cannot get worse then this I suppose - I'm glad I cut mine off before I broke the stupid swingarm.

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Somewhere I have a post that makes it even easier, for now I will explain it, use the deep socket but jam a rag below and around the socket, like having someone hold it in place, have it in gear and move the rear wheel so that the tension is on the lower chain, place a piece of wood/ rubber, anything that will hold the tire in place. Do Not put a piece of wood between the swing arm and wheel, unless you want to replace the swing arm and chain at the same time .

And here is proof swingarm cracked
I say it again, Kawasaki has a problem with quality control - Ninja 500 Speedo cables anyone?

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FWIW - out of three Vs bought new, when I had to change the countershaft sprockets, the '08 was easy (Craftsman 1/2" air-impact wrench), the '09 was NOT (tried w/ an air-impact Ingersol Rand that can go to 500'/# on removal, then went to the Kawi shop who removed it for a case of beer), and a '15, which AGAIN was easy (the air-impact Ingersol Rand again).

Succeeding removals on all THREE were easy, as I torqued the nuts to the "factory recommended torque values"....
So 1200 Foot-tons I suppose. I torqued to 90 and then bent the washer up.
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It's not overtorqued at the factory... It just tends to stick a bit from initial assembly.
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Anyone have the nut details, part no#, ?

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Is this nut a righty or a lefty?
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Normal, counter clockwise. Just changed to 16 tooth a couple of days ago on my 2016. I've had problems on other bikes changing front sprockets, so this is not unique to the Versys. No problem with 1/2 inch Air impact, zipped right off.
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Is this nut a righty or a lefty?
Clockwise to tighten (righty) and counterclockwise (lefty) to loosen.

I still have a full deck.
I just shuffle slower.

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If I don't have someone to hold the rear brake, I stick a pipe through the wheel and the swingarm.
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If I don't have someone to hold the rear brake, I stick a pipe through the wheel and the swingarm.
You can ALWAYS find someone to hold the rear brakes ON if you can wait a bit.

WAY-Y-Y better than replacing a cracked swingarm....

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You can ALWAYS find someone to hold the rear brakes ON if you can wait a bit.

WAY-Y-Y better than replacing a cracked swingarm....
Holy crap, just read through the rest of this thread. I've changed many a counter sprocket, but not yet on the V. Didn't realize the torque was so high, and that swingarms cracked with a method I've used in the past.

Thanks for the heads-up. Rear brake it is. Or I finally break down and get an impact wrench...
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