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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 05-16-2017, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
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Permanent tire repair?

I had a small screw in the rear tire. The workshop refused to repair the puncture, I would have had to leave the bike there, cost 350,- . So I decided to try myself and used a tire repair spray. The maker warns of speeds higher than 80 km/h and strongly suggests to see the next tire workshop as soon as possible. Haha... so I kept riding the tire, first carefully, but soon "as usual", which means city, curvy hillside roads and highway, up to 150 km/h.
Now the repair has lasted for 1000 kilometers, and there is no change visible in the area of the puncture, see photo.
I feel I can exclude sudden pressure loss, so I am tempted to continue and hope to reach the end of tire life that way.
In the manual Kawasaki mentions external and internal repair methods and only adds, that internal provides better reliability, that's all.

Do some of you have experience with such a situation?
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tire spray? like fix a flat? personally thats a get you home kinda thing then fix it better when you can... i have a basic plug kit(black slime slug thing) and air pump on my bike and rode countless miles on plugs but if i can i like to put a patch on the inside of the tire (if you can unmount and remount your tire) all you need is some rubber cement and a chunk of rubber (i save my old inner-tubes just for this)


if you used fix a flat (or like product) make sure you warn your mechanic that changes your tire next that stuff can make one hell of a mess

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tire spray? like fix a flat? personally thats a get you home kinda thing then fix it better when you can... i have a basic plug kit(black slime slug thing) and air pump on my bike and rode countless miles on plugs but if i can i like to put a patch on the inside of the tire (if you can unmount and remount your tire) all you need is some rubber cement and a chunk of rubber (i save my old inner-tubes just for this)


if you used fix a flat (or like product) make sure you warn your mechanic that changes your tire next that stuff can make one hell of a mess
Thanks. Because "thats a get you home kinda thing" I have a slime kit with me... you never know.
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I got a nail in a brand new PR3 on my V-650 a few years back. It wasn't leaking so i finished out the ride then went home. The next day i pulled out my tire plugger kit and plugged it. I put almost 8000 miles on that tire before i sold the bike with no issues. I let the guy that bought it know about the plug and he rode it that way until the life of the tire was done and replaced them... This is the kit I've had since 2010 and its saved me and a few friends from having a bad day......https://www.stopngo.com/tire-mobility-kit-for-cars/

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Don't remember where I saw it. Maybe a cycle magazine, but I saw a tire repair plug that looked like a screw, and the end looked a lot like the end of a key the you hold when cranking a car.best I remember you pull the nail out of tire. put glue on the threads of the plug screw it in tight, then bend to break the end off. looked like it was made of some type of plastic. Has any one else seen or remember this? I always wondered if it was any good. I looked on the internet, but can't find any thing on it.
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Don't remember where I saw it. Maybe a cycle magazine, but I saw a tire repair plug that looked like a screw, and the end looked a lot like the end of a key the you hold when cranking a car.best I remember you pull the nail out of tire. put glue on the threads of the plug screw it in tight, then bend to break the end off. looked like it was made of some type of plastic. Has any one else seen or remember this? I always wondered if it was any good. I looked on the internet, but can't find any thing on it.
i think i remember seeing the ones you are talking about on some car/truck show i use to watch was like a cone shaped plastic plug and you would shove a driver in the tire and turn an allen like key to plug it then snap the driver off... i remember thinking it was a bad idea it being hard plastic

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i think i remember seeing the ones you are talking about on some car/truck show i use to watch was like a cone shaped plastic plug and you would shove a driver in the tire and turn an allen like key to plug it then snap the driver off... i remember thinking it was a bad idea it being hard plastic
Found it. here is the video. https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...7&action=click
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yup thats the one ( i was mixing it together with the stopngo in my head for some reason)
still think its a stupid design but thats just me.... i still use the old school black worm style

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I've had good luck using the Stop N Go mushroom type plugs, but I've also used them by cleaning off the lube they come with & replacing it with tire cement.
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yup thats the one ( i was mixing it together with the stopngo in my head for some reason)
still think its a stupid design but thats just me.... i still use the old school black worm style
I agree. in the video he got a flat from a metal screw pulled it out, and replaced it with a plastic screw. Hell why not just carry a selection of metal screws. Pull out the screw that gave you the flat, and replace it with a larger metal screw. lol

I'm with you Silvie. Old school black worm style. But when I get home, I will replace the tire.
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But when I get home, I will replace the tire.
I love me to much to kill myself because I was a cheap bastard.
im to poor for that ... if like i said put around a million miles on tires with plugs and never really had a problem. id only replace the tire if the puncture is on the sidewall, or larger then 1/4"... but im also a person that runs my tires down to the cords and then some

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I use the regular tire rubber plugs and I cover them pretty generously with rubber glue before pushing it in. Never had any problem with that kind of repair. I used to work in a garage back in the day and we never had a customer coming back to us about one of those plug failing as far as I can recall. They are a legit repair.
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I bought 2 of these Nealey Heavy Duty Tire Repair kits : Nealey Tire Repair Kit
Nealey Strings do not need lube or glue
Got a tek screw in my Super Tenere 1200 front tire on an interstate trip out in the middle of the boonies, put one of these Nealey String in.... and kept riding. 4000km on and have not lost one psi. Done some pretty hard Km with hard mountain twisties etc.
Still going.
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I bought 2 of these Nealey Heavy Duty Tire Repair kits : Nealey Tire Repair Kit
Nealey Strings do not need lube or glue
Got a tek screw in my Super Tenere 1200 front tire on an interstate trip out in the middle of the boonies, put one of these Nealey String in.... and kept riding. 4000km on and have not lost one psi. Done some pretty hard Km with hard mountain twisties etc.
Still going.
that the kind of old school black worm kind we were talking about

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I would have put a patch on the inside of the tire. Now that you have tire spray in there it is too late to put a patch.

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I would have put a patch on the inside of the tire. Now that you have tire spray in there it is too late to put a patch.
no it can still be patched..... but you will hate cans of tire fix about 1/2 way thru the job....

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I would have put a patch on the inside of the tire. Now that you have tire spray in there it is too late to put a patch.
no it can still be patched..... but you will hate cans of tire fix about 1/2 way thru the job....
For me that means too late to put a patch.
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I've repaired a lot of automobile tires with the old fashioned black worms like the Nealey kit mentioned above. Never had a failure of any of those patches.

Now I carry a Dynaplug kit but haven't had to use it yet on automobile or motorcycle.

I'd ride cautiously for the first few miles on any repair, but after that I wouldn't worry about a plug or patch repair failing for a typical nail or screw puncture.
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...Do some of you have experience with such a situation?
Several times I've 'plugged' a tire (NEVER in the sidewall!) and then used it till the tire needed replacing 'cause it was "wore-out", and ONCE (on my Bandit) had a slow-leak caused by some small pieces of glass, so I kept checking the pressure each ride, filling it as necessary, and used THAT tire up, too.

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Even did that once, after plugging a car tire.
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