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Running rich?

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I was leading a small group ride the other week and a few of the riders told me they could smell my exhaust.

They surmised it was running rich.

I dropped into my local Adrenalin co-op (Great place - they can do the work for you for $C85 or you can do it yourself with their stands, tools, etc., for $C20 per hour or a combination of both). They noted that there was no obvious blackness around the exhaust.

I am going back next week to pull the tank off and clean the air filter.

The other suggestion was to have the ECU flashed incase the previous owner had played with it when there was a Power Commander III fitted. We removed that several years ago as I wasn't happy with the way it was handling. I am told the only place local is 2 Wheel DynoWorks. Unfortunately, that would be two (expensive) ferries and a motel as I live on Vancouver Island and Nels is in Kirkland, WA

The last few tanks of gas have averaged in the low 40ís imperial MPG (less than 200 miles max per tank) for only moderate running Ė no high speed or hard acceleration.

Anybody have any suggestions or ideas?

Although I have had Miss Jaffa (Burnt Orange 2007 Versys) for a while, I still have a lot to learn.


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Do you have an aftermarket/cat delete exhaust? If so, that smell of gas from the exhaust is very common, and doesn't necessarily mean you are running rich.
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Thanks 10dadeo.

Yes it has a Leo Vance SBK slip on.

I will still clean the air filter but won't spend the $ on rechiping it.

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Do you have an aftermarket/cat delete exhaust? If so, that smell of gas from the exhaust is very common, and doesn't necessarily mean you are running rich.
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...Yes it has a Leo Vance SBK slip on....
Yup - disabling your cat (catalytic converter) is probably the cause...!

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You cannot have your ECU 'flashed' or 'rechipped'.

Check and clean your air filter, and make sure it's not over-oiled. You run on 10W-40 engine oil, and premium gasoline? How old are your spark plugs?

At low 40's mpg in such conditions, you must be running a tad rich. I average 68 miles per imperial gallon.

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You cannot have your ECU 'flashed' or 'rechipped'.
I thought you could have it remapped as part of dyno tuning.

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Check and clean your air filter, and make sure it's not over-oiled.
Will do after Sunday's run when I will have an empty fuel tank. I cleaned it out after Alaska last year, and have added less than 6,000 kms ago.

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You run on 10W-40 engine oil, and premium gasoline? How old are your spark plugs?
Yes to 10W-40 synthetic oil, but regular gas. Spark plugs are about 16,000 kms / 10,000 miles, prior to Alaska.

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At low 40's mpg in such conditions, you must be running a tad rich. I average 68 miles per imperial gallon.
I am only at 50 miles per imperial gallon, but

a. I am a big guy (120 kg)
b. Non-stand wind screen (Fast Eddie's old one)
c. Lots of bags
d. Lots of **** in the bags

Thanks for the input.

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I would clean and reoil the air cleaner and replace the plugs if there is sufficient mileage on the bike to warrent. I have a can of K&N air cleaner oil which seems to be completely different stuff than regular motor oil.
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...I am only at 50 miles per imperial gallon, but

a. I am a big guy (120 kg)
b. Non-stand wind screen (Fast Eddie's old one)
c. Lots of bags
d. Lots of **** in the bags

Thanks for the input.
FWIW Al - I seem to remember somewhere in the mid-60mpg Imp w/ it on my '09 ('course I weigh a BIT less than you do)....


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FWIW Al - I seem to remember somewhere in the mid-60mpg Imp w/ it on my '09 ('course I weigh a BIT less than you do)....

But I think you peddle a bit faster than I do

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I would clean and reoil the air cleaner and replace the plugs if there is sufficient mileage on the bike to warrent. I have a can of K&N air cleaner oil which seems to be completely different stuff than regular motor oil.

It is very light oil.............instead of paying K&N's price I just use Marvel Mystery Oil. You can not tell the difference, and you get a full quart of oil for the price of 4 oz of K&N.
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It is very light oil.............instead of paying K&N's price I just use Marvel Mystery Oil. You can not tell the difference, and you get a full quart of oil for the price of 4 oz of K&N.
I am a member at Adrenalin co-op where they can either do all the work for you (at only $C85 / $US62 per hour) or you can use their hoist, tools, etc for $C20 / $US15 per hour or a combination thereof

Thanks for the tip, but I will use what they have and recommend.

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