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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 11-29-2016, 04:07 AM Thread Starter
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I connected a CTEK charger quick connector to my battery, so I can charge the battery without having to unplug the battery, but after first charge the instrument panel and tacho went dead.
Tacho stays at zero, there is light on the instrument panel, but no symbols what so ever. Any clues to what causes this and how to fix it?

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Hi

I connected a CTEK charger quick connector to my battery, so I can charge the battery without having to unplug the battery, but after first charge the instrument panel and tacho went dead.
Tacho stays at zero, there is light on the instrument panel, but no symbols what so ever. Any clues to what causes this and how to fix it?

Regards,

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Could you supply a rough drawing. Or describe what / how you connected this charger, also why you did this and what year of Bike. OK it is 2007
The maximum output of the charger.You could take a picture of a hand made paper drawing, showing polarities etc. take a picture of this and upload it to your post.Know where your picture is stored on your computer, such as desktop

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Hi

I connected a CTEK charger quick connector to my battery, so I can charge the battery without having to unplug the battery, but after first charge the instrument panel and tacho went dead.
Tacho stays at zero, there is light on the instrument panel, but no symbols what so ever. Any clues to what causes this and how to fix it?

Regards,

Kari
One of two things, you destroyed your battery or blew a fuse. My money is on your battery.

Going for a ride today so any help will need to come from others here.

Some things to check to get you started:

#1 -All connections that were disconnected, are they back in place and tight?

#2-With the key on what voltage is measured at the battery?
#3-Are the tail lights and city lights on?
#4-Does the fuel pump run for 3 seconds when you key on ?
#5- If no to #3&4,then your battery is probably done.
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Hi

Some things to check to get you started:

#1 -All connections that were disconnected, are they back in place and tight?
Only plus and minus battery connections was disconnected, they are connected now.

#2-With the key on what voltage is measured at the battery?
I can check that.
#3-Are the tail lights and city lights on?
Yes
#4-Does the fuel pump run for 3 seconds when you key on ?
Yes, and the bike runs without other problems than dark display.
#5- If no to #3&4,then your battery is probably done.
Battery might not be completely dead, but slowly dying

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post #5 of 49 (permalink) Old 11-29-2016, 07:17 AM Thread Starter
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CTEK quick connect connector connected directly to the battery, red to red and black to black.
Quick connector connected to charger and charger connected to wall socket.

A lot of "connections" but I hope you understand

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If the bike starts ok then your battery is probably fine. Check for loose connections at the battery.
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If the bike starts ok then your battery is probably fine. Check for loose connections at the battery.
Checked that, no problems there.
Iīve disconnected the battery now, hoping for a self-healing panel when battery is connected again.
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I'd start checking fuses...........not sure if there is one specifically for the instruments but that's the place to start.
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Iīve checked all fuses I can find, but all of them are OK.
The illumination light turns on, but nothing else.
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I've used the same CTEK charger and quick connect on my last 3 bikes. Never any issues.

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This has happened before, what was found was a bad/ corroded frame ground. The ECU uses the frame ground for some things and is not directly connected to the negative wiring, primarily dependent on a good clean connection at the frame ground. I would take that apart and make sure all crimp connectors are clean and in good shape, been said here before to use a good dielectric grease, also to clean the ground and terminals use a green or red scotch brite pad, you know some of those pot scrubber sponges have them on the backside.
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Do you know where to locate these grounding points?
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I found a wiring diagramme, and in there I found 2 grounding points, one under the saddle, and the other seemed to be in the front of the bike, under the fairings. Anybody have info to clear this out?
Donīt want to disassemble fairings unless I need to.

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I found a wiring diagramme, and in there I found 2 grounding points, one under the saddle, and the other seemed to be in the front of the bike, under the fairings. Anybody have info to clear this out?
Donīt want to disassemble fairings unless I need to.
Located at the other end of your negative battery terminal wire. If you look at the wire connected to your starter, then look left just behind the clutch lever, this too can become corroded, but you would have starting problems, still worth checking and cleaning, said before in other threads, use a good dielectric grease here, but use it sparingly . The most important thing is cleaning with scotch brite pads, including the crimp terminal!

No clear cut answer. Assistance please.

See my post #5, describing where.
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Iīve checked the grounding points, all seem to be OK. Checked wiring under the ignition and behind headlight, nothing seems to be wrong there.
Jerked all the wiring around to see if there were any poor connections, but to no avail.
All fuses OK. (At least the ones I found under the seat)
The bike fires up without any hesitation and runs just like before.
All signal lights in the panel work (turn, high beam, neutral etc)
Tacho needle at zero, panel backlight works, but no visuals on it at all.

So, it seems like the panel is broken, but I would really like to know how to measure to make sure it is.
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I will look at the drawing MK-1 / 2007

That is a ecu driven display, get back to you in a bit
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Does any of the idiot lights besides the back light work in the display. Neutral indicator, signal light, FI indicator on start up.
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All idiot lights work.

Hereīs how it looks when ignition turned on, but engines not started. Looks the same way when engine is started though.
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