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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-23-2016, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
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Angry New passwords

Must be at least 10 characters
Must contain lower-case characters
Must contain upper-case characters
Must contain numbers
Must contain symbols

Really? It's a freaking public forum, not Fort Knox.
That is way overkill for a stupid public forum. I have a hard enough time remembering my passwords to credit cards, bank accounts etc, and they are not as complex as this is. This level of complexity is just added BS we don't need. No one is presenting their SS# on this site, what kind of security risk is involved that requires more password complexity than most banks?
Lets, for once, just try to make life simpler instead of more complicated.

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YEAH, what he said!! 10 FREAKING characters...............
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They gotta do what they gotta do.
Everyone should have a 10+ character password on deck anyway. Something with some symbols, upper case, lower case and numbers.
I'm more upset that some of my accounts won't let me use special characters. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard (I'm looking at you Optonline).
The logic I'm using is that most people use the same password for multiple accounts. If this forum has vulnerabilities, hackers can use the passwords obtained here to try and login to more "beneficial" sites such as banks. They would likely see great success because like I said, most people use the same password for everything.
I think that you really REALLY need to think about where we are in this day and age. Cyber crime is not a joke or a fantasy. It's very real. Take it from someone that works in IT.
You don't want to be on the receiving end of an attack.
Just make a stronger password and move on lol.


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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-23-2016, 12:26 PM
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To all, I work in corporate IT. I HIGHLY recommend that EVERYONE check out a free service called LastPass to manage and create your passwords. It's totally free for browser use, if you want it on your phone it's $12/year. These guys are seriously good, I promise you that they're secure and there's nothing to worry about.

I manage more secure junk than you can imagine, and everything goes into my lastpass. I don't even know my own passwords for most things.

I did just get mad at Dell this morning, their IT professional portal made me change my password...those rules were "at least 8 but not more than 12 characters, at least one uppercase, at least one lowercase, some specials allowed but not all, no ascending or descending characters, no previous passwords". What a pain in the biscuits.

Edit: Also, doxxing people is trivial. I can't suggest enough to you that you not use the same userID on multiple places and that you never, ever reuse the same passwords. You can also, with services like gmail, add wildcards to your email address, ergo MotorCycleRider@gmail.com and MotorCycleRider+insecurewebsite@gmail.com both go to the same address. You can really get some pretty interesting granular control, especially because later if you get spam you can see exactly who sold your info.
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To all, I work in corporate IT. I HIGHLY recommend that EVERYONE check out a free service called LastPass to manage and create your passwords. It's totally free for browser use, if you want it on your phone it's $12/year. These guys are seriously good, I promise you that they're secure and there's nothing to worry about.

I manage more secure junk than you can imagine, and everything goes into my lastpass. I don't even know my own passwords for most things.

I did just get mad at Dell this morning, their IT professional portal made me change my password...those rules were "at least 8 but not more than 12 characters, at least one uppercase, at least one lowercase, some specials allowed but not all, no ascending or descending characters, no previous passwords". What a pain in the biscuits.

Edit: Also, doxxing people is trivial. I can't suggest enough to you that you not use the same userID on multiple places and that you never, ever reuse the same passwords. You can also, with services like gmail, add wildcards to your email address, ergo MotorCycleRider@gmail.com and MotorCycleRider+insecurewebsite@gmail.com both go to the same address. You can really get some pretty interesting granular control, especially because later if you get spam you can see exactly who sold your info.
My passwords on public forums is always short and sweet so it never matches my passwords for bank and credit card accounts (which have required more complex PWs for a long time now). I don't care if someone hacks my Versys Forum account, big freaking deal. The problem now is with these new complex requirements how many people will use the same password on this forum as they do on more important financial sites?
I'm afraid this "step forward" for this site will end up being a step beckward for a lot of members who take the easy route of using the same password here as they do their bank accounts. How many people are just going to stay logged in because they don't feel like typing or remembering this new sentence long password?
I used to work for the state, I had 9 PWs to remember and they all changed at different times, had differing requirements and couldn't repeat. They told us under no circumstances to write them down or share them with a third party. Well everyone wrote them down because they made things so complicated that no one could remember them. They created their own security risk. This site has done the same.
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My passwords on public forums is always short and sweet so it never matches my passwords for bank and credit card accounts (which have required more complex PWs for a long time now). I don't care if someone hacks my Versys Forum account, big freaking deal. The problem now is with these new complex requirements how many people will use the same password on this forum as they do on more important financial sites?
I'm afraid this "step forward" for this site will end up being a step beckward for a lot of members who take the easy route of using the same password here as they do their bank accounts. How many people are just going to stay logged in because they don't feel like typing or remembering this new sentence long password?
I used to work for the state, I had 9 PWs to remember and they all changed at different times, had differing requirements and couldn't repeat. They told us under no circumstances to write them down or share them with a third party. Well everyone wrote them down because they made things so complicated that no one could remember them. They created their own security risk. This site has done the same.
Yea, just a Tad overkill..
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Well fellas it is a tad overkill for a bike forum. But I don't even know if its THIS forum, or all forums who use this software have to do it as my Star bike forums had a mandatory change, today, as well.

I agree, the passwords are getting ridiculous, not to mention needing to remember 400 different website username/passwords. But hey, chrome remembers most of them for me

We just need a new username/password system universal, for everything. Websites, computers, phones, tablets, credit cards, etc. Whoever comes out with one, will be a billabajillionaire.

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My passwords on public forums is always short and sweet so it never matches my passwords for bank and credit card accounts (which have required more complex PWs for a long time now). I don't care if someone hacks my Versys Forum account, big freaking deal. The problem now is with these new complex requirements how many people will use the same password on this forum as they do on more important financial sites?
I'm afraid this "step forward" for this site will end up being a step beckward for a lot of members who take the easy route of using the same password here as they do their bank accounts. How many people are just going to stay logged in because they don't feel like typing or remembering this new sentence long password?
I used to work for the state, I had 9 PWs to remember and they all changed at different times, had differing requirements and couldn't repeat. They told us under no circumstances to write them down or share them with a third party. Well everyone wrote them down because they made things so complicated that no one could remember them. They created their own security risk. This site has done the same.
Do you actually log into the forum every time you visit?


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People actually come up with and remember their own passwords still? How 2015 /s

Lastpass or any other PW manager will change your world. Let it create the passwords for you. Remember 1 password, setup 2FA with your phone and never think about passwords again
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Check out the address on the bottom of your e mail they sent you.

YES, they're Canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS, anyone want a spare password with all the necessary ups/downs/icons'n'caps???

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Check out the address on the bottom of your e mail they sent you.

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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-24-2016, 10:33 AM
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We're Canadian! Well, the majority of us Jeff isn't.

The password change might be a bit annoying but there are a lot of users on the forum that use the same password/email combination for everything which isn't the safest thing to do. We want to get everyone around to changing it so that their accounts won't get hacked.

in case you do need a password, I have a really strong one.

it's
HulkThorSupermanHerculesGoku



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We're Canadian! Well, the majority of us Jeff isn't.

The password change might be a bit annoying but there are a lot of users on the forum that use the same password/email combination for everything which isn't the safest thing to do. We want to get everyone around to changing it so that their accounts won't get hacked.

in case you do need a password, I have a really strong one.

it's
HulkThorSupermanHerculesGoku



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Your password wont work, it doesn't have a symbol, OR number, you know the site requires those.
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They gotta do what they gotta do.
Why? I don't care if your password is a book, if they hack in, they can get it. And then what, type dirty MC posts under your moniker. Eww Ahh!!!
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