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Oil change interval by mileage or time?

Hey all,

Just curious what you guys do for oil change intervals on your bikes. The Kawi MOM says to change the oil at 600 miles then 7500 miles. I changed it at 600 (Dealer service) and then changed it to synthetic at 2000 miles. That was about 4 months ago. I now have 2900 miles on it.

I've always changed my car oil at every 3000 miles OR 3 months.

So, with the bike (and synthetic in it) I was planning on changing it every 3000 miles but I got to thinking I may not hit 3000 miles on this oil til the spring. By then it will have been 8 months since it's last oil change.

Is there any time frame for oil changes that I should look at too rather than just going by distance? Like should I plan on changing it every X miles OR every X months? Or should I just stick to the miles no matter how long it takes to get there?
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I think the best for engine is when you change it about every 10000km (6215miles) or every year.

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Just my $.02

I change mine every spring (start of riding season) and every 3000 miles after. I have no scientific reason, just what I do.

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It's better to change it now upon winter storage, and have it sit with new unused oil in... I change my oil at every 2500-3000 miles, including when I store it for about 5 winter months.

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I'm actually still riding it weekly. I commute on it about 3-5 times a week. In that case, I'm probably good to just go off of mileage then right?
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2 more cents;

My uneducated guess is the more demanding componets for oil are clutch and transmission, not engine. I have a new bike and gear changes are getting better w/ fresh oil. This should settle down after a few thousand miles.

My plan is to change oil every 3,000 miles or 1/year whichever comes first. 5,000 mi. or 1/year is probably just fine and may be easier to remember. If your riding in dusty conditions, shifting at redline or stop and go all the time every 3,000 miles may make sense.

I plan on doing oil chages every 3,000 miles mostly for my own amusement, but I will only change the filter every other oil change (6,000mi). Not only is the filter easily good for 6k miles, your only changing 1.8 quarts of oil, takes 10 minutes, not bad at all.

BTW I'm not planning on using synthetic oil. I have used it in the past, but w/ new oil every 3,000 miles the premium regular M/C oils like castrol are plenty good enough, cheaper and easier to find.

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It's better to change it now upon winter storage, and have it sit with new unused oil in...
Please elaborate! I cant see where it really makes a difference. There may be some slight difference in moisture content, but parking two bikes side by side changing one in the fall and one in the spring will show no differences over the life of the bike.

As I said before, I have no scientific reason for what I do, but I'm all ears for some expert advice!

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I'm actually still riding it weekly. I commute on it about 3-5 times a week. In that case, I'm probably good to just go off of mileage then right?
Yes, you can stick to your 3000 mile routine.
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... I plan on doing oil chages every 3,000 miles mostly for my own amusement, but I will only change the filter every other oil change (6,000mi). Not only is the filter easily good for 6k miles, your only changing 1.8 quarts of oil, takes 10 minutes, not bad at all...
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You can also get more dirty oil out if you just unscrew the oil filter as well when you change the oil without changing the filter, if you like.
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I ride my bike everyday and after 2000 miles the shifting starts to get notchy so I change at around 2000 have been to 3000 but you can really tell after 2000 of so miles that it needs changing.
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Please elaborate! I cant see where it really makes a difference. There may be some slight difference in moisture content, but parking two bikes side by side changing one in the fall and one in the spring will show no differences over the life of the bike.

As I said before, I have no scientific reason for what I do, but I'm all ears for some expert advice!

Because your owner's manual says so, and it's better for your engine... Used oil has acidic combustion byproducts and some moisture.
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Because your owner's manual says so, and it's better for your engine... Used oil has acidic combustion byproducts and some moisture.
I read the manual to see what it said. You are correct in the fact if you store your bike, you should drain and refill with fresh. Since I ride mine some every couple weeks through the winter, I don't consider that "storage". You being from Canada, you likely put up for the winter.

Thanks for the tip though! Might start shifting my changes to late in the year instead of early unless mileage screws up my plans!
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This is probably a dumb question but what happens if a engine is left drained of oil over winter?
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I change the oil in my bikes before they get put up for winter storage.
Otherwise I change it about every 3,000 kms , thats roughly 2,000 miles.
Exceptions are when I am away on long trips, it could be more like 7,000 kms, if not home, and doing 500 plus kms a day.
I say that because every few years I do a lengthy trip, and at best they get 1 oil change mid trip.

Time alone with ones thoughts, is quality time.

They say there is a lack of jobs. Seems here to be more a lack of people willing to work hard, and take pride in the work they do.

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The manual actually says every 12500km for oil and filter change.
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This is probably a dumb question but what happens if a engine is left drained of oil over winter?
i think that's the same as storing with old oil, since "drained" is never really drained. new stuff will dilute the bad stuff.

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i think that's the same as storing with old oil, since "drained" is never really drained. new stuff will dilute the bad stuff.
Now on that point kevrider that brings me to yet another question.

Should we add a engine flush additive when we change oil on a motorbike to remove carbon buildup as i do with my cars and ford truck?
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For maximum engine protection, some change oil every 3000 mile or 6 months (which ever comes first). Some even with the oil filter together. Important is to have the engine at working temperature when draining. Takes out all that sludge out.

There are some many trains of thought but an regular oil analysis is the definite way to know what the engine is going through.
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There are some many trains of thought but an regular oil analysis is the definite way to know what the engine is going through.
Takes alot of the guess work out of it. I have used blackstone a couple of times for a motorcycle oil analysis .


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This is probably a dumb question but what happens if a engine is left drained of oil over winter?
What would happen IF you were to hit the starter without realizing there was no oil in it...?

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