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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-01-2012, 03:40 PM Thread Starter
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Help me select a 4 season touring jacket

I need to replace my touring jacket. Soliciting input in the hopes some of you can suggest possible alternatives. Currently considering another Olympia AST or the Teiz Navigator or maybe the Rev'It Horizon or other possible alternatives. Currently only familiar with the Olympia AST and Tourmaster Transition. Would also possibly consider solid leather too.

Requirements:
- good abrasion resistance and crash protection, 500D Cordura or similar in the shell, and heavy Cordura, leather, kevlar patchs on the strike points. No polyester or lightweight nylon used in external shell. Heavy seam construction and placement away for common strike points. Good quality armor that provides full coverage.

- will primarily be used from 72F to 32F. Excellent wind resistance and full sleeve insulated liner. Should be warm enough to wear on extended rides down to 50F on it's own, and extended rides down to 32F with my Gerbings heated liner.

- some venting capability for milder weather

- adjustable fit as I will be layering under this

- preferably less than $450

- fits North American body type, not too slim fitting

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Rather than lots of layering underneath, budget for a heated liner instead. I finally got heat this fall and it is superior in comfort and effectiveness to every combination of base layers and fleeces I have tried. Once your body heat is gone from extreme cold, only heat can bring it back. Layers won't do that for you. I learned that on a 100 mile solo ride to Chicago in 45 degree rain.

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extended rides down to 32F with my Gerbings heated liner.
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Rather than lots of layering underneath, budget for a heated liner instead.
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Sorry, I guess I should read more closely. Der.

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I ride in a Firstgear Kilimanjaro for most of the year. It is pretty comfortable from 80 down to freezing. It has most of the features you mentioned and they are only around 300 bucks.

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The Rev'it! Horizon jacket is really awesome and for the price I don't think you can find anything as well built as it. It looks good too. I returned mine simply cause it didnt fit me well, I'm tall and slim but with somewhat wide shoulders. But if it fits you, you'll love it. I ended up buying a Rukka jacket cause it's the only brand that fits me, but I would have saved a lot of money and had vents if the Horizon had fit. One size looked awesome but it fit too tightly, the next size was too large. But who knows it might fit you like a glove.

I ordered mine from Blackfoot:
http://www.blackfootdirect.com/t-RevitSizingChart.aspx

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Scorpion Hat Trick has two liners. Great looks, and is a good jacket, but best to get a longer fit jacket, with more neck! My two cents!

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I got a Fulmer riding jacket for $114 that met all of your requirements and have loved it so far. I rode with it on this morning to work in 32deg weather.



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I don't have any suggestions for a jacket but, with a high of 72 degrees I'd definitely be looking at trading some "venting" for more water resistance.
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I ride in a Firstgear Kilimanjaro for most of the year. It is pretty comfortable from 80 down to freezing. It has most of the features you mentioned and they are only around 300 bucks.
X 2! In my experience you can ride MUCH warmer than 80F in the Kilimanjaro with the jacket liner out and all vents open, UNTIL you stop. So - GREAT on a long HOT trip.

My Tourmaster Synergy jacket liner goes in when it's cold.

BTW - watch sales, and you can usually buy "last year's model" for around $150. BUT - they fit BIG. I have THREE - one is L (TOO big for me, 5'10", 175#), and TWO Ms (one each AZ and BC).


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Get an Olympia AST and never look back. I'm on my 5th winter with mine and love it. The only layer I wear under it is a fleece for the real cold days and I'm never, ever, ever cold or wet, EVER. And that's year round up north. ;-)

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I got soaked in my Olympia AST the first time I rode in the rain in it.

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I got soaked in my Olympia AST the first time I rode in the rain in it.
It has a front zipper you know. J/K ;-)

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After doing some comparison shopping, if I do get another jacket at this point I will probably get an AST 2. It is not perfect but for the price it is hard to beat for a textile touring/commuting jacket. Have not had water proof issues with my AST ver 1. There are nicer alternatives like the Goretex, Klim Latitude, but I'm not riding long distances frequently enough to justify the extra cost.

I phoned Olympia to see if I could get some 2000D Cordura to try and repair my existing jacket - crashed in it which is why I am looking for another jacket. Only the elbow/forearm patch is damaged from the accident. They (spoke with owner Kevin Rhea) offered to send me some material free of charge although it has not arrived yet. The whole patch needs replacement though and the underlying waterproof layer needs fixing too which will require taking the sleeve completely apart. Will go this route if the labor estimate from the tailor makes it economically viable.

Update: the labor cost to have the elbow/fore arm patch repaired is $180 so will be scraping jacket as this is 50% of new price.

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Picked up a BMG Mercury jacket. Pretty comfortable and doing the trick in Chicago so far.
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Firstgear TPG or Kilimanjaro along with a first gear heated liner. Waterproof & breathable and will work from 80F to 20F. I've worn both.
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I've started to look at motoport gear. They get a lot of great reviews over at ADV.

I just ordered the Aero-tex rain jacket because they are the only company I found that will make a waterproof breathable rain jacket in Hi-Vis. Since they make the jackets themselves I was able to get the entire jacket in Hi-Vis.

Their Cordura and their Kevlar jackets come highly recommended and when they say waterproof they guarantee it.

They also will repair a crashed jacket and if they can't repair it they will replace it.

I figured I would start with the rain jacket since I already have other gear and if I am impressed I will eventually move to other items they sell.

www.motoport.com
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Firstgear TPG Rainier Jacket

I've been very happy with this jacket. You didn't say what size jacket but if you're interested these folks have a few sizes left.

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/street...le_jacket.html
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I'm a huge fan of the driRider Ralley Cross Pro jacket i'm on my second one now and only because I wanted a cleaner looking one for Road use only during winter.

Its got a zip out thermal waterproof jacket liner,
hard plastic armour on the elbows and shoulders
a large back pocket for plastic pants etc
2 litre camel back intergrated
made from the hardest wearing balistic nylon mesh known to man
breathes like a open window when the inner liner has been removed.
Zip off sleeves.

I have also added into the back of mine a Dainese Back plate
They are next to impossible to destroy, warm as toast in a blizzard and breezy cool in the summer.
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