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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-16-2017, 08:45 PM Thread Starter
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better windscreen for my 09 650.

I have a givi d405st windscreen on my 09 650. It is 17.7" tall and about 17' wide. It doesn't seem to give me a lot of protection at the helmet level. I am used to being able to run without having my face shield down and not worry about bugs in my face. Are any of the other screens any better? Like maybe the tall vstream. Its ok if it doesn't protect my hands I just want some dead air around my helmet.
I am 5'3" with about a 28" inseam. I am not very tall but I like to sit up pretty straight.
I don't do a lot of city driving, its mostly 45 to 80mph for about 14-20 miles each way.
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I have a givi d405st windscreen on my 09 650. It is 17.7" tall and about 17' wide. It doesn't seem to give me a lot of protection at the helmet level. I am used to being able to run without having my face shield down and not worry about bugs in my face. Are any of the other screens any better? Like maybe the tall vstream. Its ok if it doesn't protect my hands I just want some dead air around my helmet.
I am 5'3" with about a 28" inseam. I am not very tall but I like to sit up pretty straight.
I don't do a lot of city driving, its mostly 45 to 80mph for about 14-20 miles each way.
I would like to have a better screen than the stock one for my 2013. I'm 6' tall. The screen doesn't even need to kill the air, but I would like it to at least wound the air.
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On my 09 i took a stock screen and a Givi. Drilled an extra set of holes in both of them then turned the stock screen upside down and attached to the Givi. Worked great for me that way...

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I'm gonna try mine in different positions first. Any thoughts on the madstad, vstream or the cal sci?
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I'm gonna try mine in different positions first. Any thoughts on the madstad, vstream or the cal sci?
I have and '09, and both the stock, and the split MRA Vario. Put on a Madstat a couple of years ago, and it makes a major diff on the buffeting. I mostly use the Vario with the split at the top, this being about 4 or 5" taller than the stock screen. When set properly, I still get some buffeting, but nothing like them being on the OEM bracket. I am only 5' 10", and if it really bad, I can always lean down on my tank bag to get my helmet out of the wind completely. If I ever do a long trip, I was going to get one of the taller models.

You can see in the attached pic how the Madstat bracket causes the screen to be pushed out further from the front of the bike, this allowing for the slip stream to come up from the bottom, then go over your head when that stream meets the head wind that comes over the top. If I understand the dynamics property, with the stock screen our heads get buffeted so heavily since we are getting hit from the head stream that comes over the top. I have never tried it, but note that some people say the helmet buffeting is less with no sreen compared to using the stock bracket only. However, then you have full wind coming at your head and chest.
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For BOTH Gen 1s, I got a Yamaha Majesty (scooter) windscreen, then cut it down. The '08 still has its, but "bigaussie" bought the one from my '09 and (I BELIEVE) said it was great for his Alaska ride last June.



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I'm gonna try mine in different positions first. Any thoughts on the madstad, vstream or the cal sci?
I have a vstream for my 09. I only use it for touring though as I kind like having my head in the wind. But the difference is undeniable compared to the stock screen. I can ride all day with my helmet shield up, no problems.


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That cut down yamaha screen looks nice but its a lot of work. I think the v stream or the calsci is what I am going to go with. I have read just about every thing I can on this topic here on this forum.
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... I can ride all day with my helmet shield up, no problems....
If I may make a suggestion - IF a bee or other larger bug is coming at you, by having your shield UP you have NO protection for your eyes.


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If I may make a suggestion - IF a bee or other larger bug is coming at you, by having your shield UP you have NO protection for your eyes.

Valid point. I ONLY ride with the shield UP when I have my wrap-around glasses ON.

Having said that, I have, on three occasions, shared my "shield-up" helmet with a bee. One who remained calm and crawled across my line of vision on the inside of my sunglasses lens! I did not share his calm demeanor. The other two were decidedly more agitated and, well, they did what angry bees do! Bite/sting first aid supplies in my kit from now on.

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...Having said that, I have, on three occasions, shared my "shield-up" helmet with a bee. One who remained calm and crawled across my line of vision on the inside of my sunglasses lens! I did not share his calm demeanor. The other two were decidedly more agitated and, well, they did what angry bees do! Bite/sting first aid supplies in my kit from now on.
I was hit between the eyes by a bee - right onto the eye-piece between the lenses of my sunglasses - at around 60 mph back in the '60s. Beside getting "bug-goop" into my eyes, the impact ALMOST made me lose control.

Last year I was riding a 'twisty' on BC 33, two-up, when I noticed a wasp INSIDE my helmet, crawling along the lower part of the opening (visor was DOWN!!!)....

It's AMAZING how quickly you can stop from highway speeds AND remove your helmet when you HAVE to....

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I had a bee on the inside of my helmet once he was walking on the inside of my glasses. I calmly pulled over and lifted my shield to take my glasses off. I am lucky that I don't have any allergic reactions to them. I used to play with them as a school kid and pick flowers with the bees on them for fun. Never got stung by a bee I could see. Those yellow jackets get me while I am mowing or cutting wood.
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