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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-08-2013, 12:39 AM Thread Starter
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Turbo Time ?

Just snooping on Aerocharger website.

With their built in calculator, using 5-lb Boost ( which ain't much) and a 9000 rpm rev limit, a 40 cu. in. engine would make 102 HP

Hmmm - when the warranty runs out I just may have found my extra go-go.

For $2000 US - you build the manifolds, which is no sweat for me.
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Yeah mate sounds fun to me.. modifying the motor is important depending on how much boost you want to run and reliability.. which is tricky for too many reasons to name in a brief. Fuel management and timing is critical, top end at the very least reliability is critical too... the bottom end is a whole new story.. talk to as many people that know this motor specifically as you can regarding the subject to get unbiased advise.
You don't want a sales pitch here!!

If you want a much faster bike in the same format it may be better in the long run to go go a faster design like a second hand Multistrada.

I don't want burn your wagon but I've seen a lot of despair on these Turbo projects that have not been thoroughly set up and gone so wrong... from joint efforts too not just a great idea from a low budget financier

You also have resale options to consider down the track unless money is no option to which I would ask... Why not a Duke!!

Get advice from those in the know is my advice not my opinion though....

Blue ridge performance know these engines well and would be a good starting contact from my researching similar ideas...

It's a lot of fun turbo or super charging bikes but the horror and costs can out-weigh the thrills if not done right.. I was going to Super charge my VFR800 Vtec until the kit was made obsolete due to un economic reasoning.. that was a full ready made to bolt on guaranteed kit for 5 grand US and it worked very well.
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Turbocharged ER6 puts out 112 HP at rear wheel.

http://www.avamc.se/fordon/4151-xgx129.html

http://www.avamc.se/produkter/product/er6-turbo/

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Turbo Inter cooled GSX1400 same story. Big tough blank canvas that one was too.. Didn't last long enough but it looked Grate-Mate!!

Don't let shiny shiny be your guide!!

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Looked like it had a 520 chain... I'll bet that lasted the distance...

Gotta get out for a ride sorry dudes.. but the fires have me hemmed in with the Turkey again... Thanks to big Elvis my place is safe though.. stuff knows how to evac 5 bikes with 2 kids, 3 dogs 10 chooks and a screaming missus in 1 wagon

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Yeah - I just put those figures up as an example. Keep the revs at 7K or below, should run about 5 lb boost. Will probably - if I go down this road - install forged pistons too.

And for sure talk to the people who know.

I have wanted a Multistrada for years - but over here the price is out of this world. Same as HD.

Buy a new HD for 25 K in Canada - same bike will be close to 60 K here.

A used Multistrada is 35 K.

Can buy a few Versys for that amount - and if one grenades - so be it.
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This was posted several years back but no details ever emerged.....


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What do you do when you are leaned over in a curve, you open the throttle, and the boost kicks in?
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What do you do when you are leaned over in a curve, you open the throttle, and the boost kicks in?
...learn to ride like the dirt-trackers do...!

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What do you do when you are leaned over in a curve, you open the throttle, and the boost kicks in?
My experience kicks in. If you can not figure out how the bike operates, then Darwin steps in.

The new turbos are not as sensitive as the old ones - no almighty wallop once you hit a certain rpm. My H1 and H2 Kawa were very bad for this - not turbo'd but with expansion chambers when they '«ame on the pipe' as we say you had to make sure that you were vertical and pointed straight ahead 'cause the front wheel has left the pavement.

Get to know the bike - same for this as any bike. A non-aspirated bike with big HP will do the same thing you questioned. It is all about control - and if you lack the means to do it - gravity and friction will leave their mark.
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What do you do when you are leaned over in a curve, you open the throttle, and the boost kicks in?
100hp is nothing to be scared of driving out of a corner. You can turn back your right wrist too if you get the willies and go wider than expected.. or just hold it in tighter and drive that wheel out..
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My experience kicks in. If you can not figure out how the bike operates, then Darwin steps in.

The new turbos are not as sensitive as the old ones - no almighty wallop once you hit a certain rpm. My H1 and H2 Kawa were very bad for this - not turbo'd but with expansion chambers when they '«ame on the pipe' as we say you had to make sure that you were vertical and pointed straight ahead 'cause the front wheel has left the pavement.

Get to know the bike - same for this as any bike. A non-aspirated bike with big HP will do the same thing you questioned. It is all about control - and if you lack the means to do it - gravity and friction will leave their mark.
The Kaw H1 and H2 type power curve was exactly what I was thinking about when I made my post. It's not the amount of power that is my concern, its how quickly it "hits".

It's good to hear that the new turbos aren't as sensitive as the old ones.
[Ahh... but... you go first, and I'll watch. ]

Maybe we'll see the manufacturers designing turbos in their new models soon?
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Maybe we'll see the manufacturers designing turbos in their new models soon?
Did you miss the 80's?
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Did you miss the 80's?
Yes, I've noticed several turbo models that came from Japan in the 80"s. I've also noticed that turbos did not make it into the 90's and beyond (for "factory" motorcycles).

As far as turbos go, I do have some limited experience with them. In the late 80's my Father-in-law bought a Chrysler sedan with a factory turbo in it. I loved taking that car to the Interstate on-ramp, punching it, and then feeling the turbo kick in! Woooosssshhh!

Thougts of being an unlimited hydroplane driver would come to mind at that point.

[It also drove my father-in-laws nuts.]
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Did you miss the 80's?
I had a GPZ 750 turbo a few years ago that I bought to restore but got sick of waiting to find good parts for it. It went ok too. Rough old bike to look at but.
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This was posted several years back but no details ever emerged.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FWPJ4KIQ7c

Hilarious! The mysterious Turbo Versys that can barely be seen on a crappy YouTube video, but no one has ever seen or heard from since.

That thing sounded like Satan himself.

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Just snooping on Aerocharger website.

With their built in calculator, using 5-lb Boost ( which ain't much) and a 9000 rpm rev limit, a 40 cu. in. engine would make 102 HP

Hmmm - when the warranty runs out I just may have found my extra go-go.

For $2000 US - you build the manifolds, which is no sweat for me.
Unless the build itself is the reward it does not really make sense to me to put a turbo on a bike like the Versys as you will not get the money spent back in resale and it will no doubt shorten the remaining life of the engine and well, for $2000 -$3000 + the resale of your Versys you can buy a 100HP+, gently used, bike with better components (brakes, suspension) than the Versys and will no doubt be more reliable. That's the logical answer but if you do this I really want to see a thread and pictures

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At last Thursday's Cycle Gear Bike Night, a fellow showed up on an early Kawi 1000cc four with a turbo. Sounded wicked, but I couldn't help thinking how "spindly" the swing-arm and frame looked....


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http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69383

My Versys trip to D2D 2013, and Alaska, June '13
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=33153

My Versys trip to D2D 2015, and Inuvik, June '15
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ad.php?t=83034
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